Newly hired LPN is making more money!!!!
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I was hired 6 months ago and am making $18 an hour.:angryfire:angryfire:angryfire I just learned that the new LPN is making $20 an hour and she has less experience than I do!!!!! What would you do?????:angryfire
Sep 27, '07Occupation: Education Director LTC RN Specialty: 22 year(s) of experience in Geriatrics ; Joined: Jul '07; Posts: 217; Likes: 252This is a regular practice in most health care facilities that I know of. They tend to offer more to new hires to recruit but they feel assured that current staff will stay regardless. We had this problem one time with a new nurse getting $1 more and hour. After all the complaints from current staff, we all got a raise. I would advise discussing this calmly with your supervisor and/or HR director. Good luck.
Sep 27, '07From: US ; Joined: Jan '04; Posts: 3,163; Likes: 1,158Thanks Nursejoy1. I am going to make an appointment today with the administrator. She's the one who is in charge of salaries at my assisted living facility. How silly they are if they think I'm going to put up with this nonsense!!!!!:trout:
Sep 27, '07Occupation: Director of Health Care Services Specialty: Home Health, Geriatrics ; Joined: Sep '07; Posts: 176; Likes: 122Blackcat99: Be careful about approaching the administrator. Discussing salaries is usually a very big no-no and can sometimes be grounds for dismissal. Read your policies and procedures before approaching him or her. They will want to know how you found out about the new LPN's salary.Sep 27, '07From: US ; Joined: Jan '04; Posts: 3,163; Likes: 1,158Thanks underpaidrn. This is an assisted living facility. Yes, I will see if I can find the policy and procedure manual.
Sep 27, '07Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 38,000; Likes: 37,221This has happened to me several times (with the same company too). The manager called me in to discuss salary when he hired a new LVN for the same case I was working and paid her more than me. We had that discussion. My unexpressed thoughts were that I had received a slap in the face and an insult. Down the road, I heard of others being paid more than me. The straw that pricked me in the eye was $4 an hour more for someone who failed the RN boards three times. In each and every instance I was never the one who brought up the subject of salary. The other party, for some reason, did so. I finally made a comment and was told something totally off base from what I had ever been told in the past. Now time to look elsewhere for a new job. All employers will do this to you hoping that you never find out and that if you do find out, that you will stay anyway. I finally opted to start taking salary seriously. My work is just as valuable as the next person. You have to look at it that way. You are only stuck if there are very few employers in town. Good luck.Sep 27, '07Occupation: Director of Health Care Services Specialty: Home Health, Geriatrics ; Joined: Sep '07; Posts: 176; Likes: 122Speaking as a former administrator, the first question I would ask is where did you get this information? If your p & p manual states that discussing salaries is a no-no, then you will have to be very careful about how you got your information. I don't want you to get in trouble. I never hired new staff at a higher rate than my seasoned veterans. I consider that unethical.Sep 27, '07Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 38,000; Likes: 37,221Yes, underpaidrn, it is very unethical to hire new staff at a higher rate than your seasoned, loyal staff. It is even more unethical to lie about your methods of determining salary. I never asked anyone what their rate was. For some reason they always made a comment. I suppose the subject was touchy to them. I've now learned to value my services more and take salary into consideration when looking for employment. It's my choice whether I will stay or go once I find out someone else is valued more than me.Sep 27, '07From: US ; Joined: Jan '04; Posts: 3,163; Likes: 1,158One of the nurses who has worked at the assisted living facility told me that the $20 an hour nurse showed her the check stub to prove it. The other 2 nurses who have worked for many years at that facility are not getting paid $20 an hour either. One of them has been their for 7 years!!!!!!!
Sep 27, '07Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 38,000; Likes: 37,221Yep, Blackcat99, not surprised at all. And employers wonder why employees try to organize under unions, or better yet, vote with their feet and go to a more ethical employer.Sep 27, '07Occupation: LTC Specialty: 9 year(s) of experience ; Joined: May '04; Posts: 3,422; Likes: 1,298I've been working for the same agency 3 yrs. still making the same pay I made starting out and LPNs are being hired in making $3.00/hr more than me.
Sep 27, '07Joined: Sep '07; Posts: 3; Likes: 2I'm going RN school now and I'm very concerned about that. What's the best thing to do then? I think it might be to ask for a higher starting wage before you even step onto the floor. Suggestions on this...
Sep 27, '07Joined: Aug '07; Posts: 1,399; Likes: 1,956This is an everyday occurence. It depends on how desperate they were for the staff that hired in at a particular time as to the wage offered. This is also why employers do not want staff discussing salaries. Most employers are now going to policies to prohibit staff from discussing salaries and can terminate anyone found to have talked about it.
For all the women out there - did you know that it is common to offer a male nurse a slightly higher salary than a woman? Even when two staff have the same qualifications, men are generally offered more at the table. And men are generally more willing to negotiate a salary than to accept the first salary quoted to them. Younger female nurses are now getting more savvy and negotiating as well.Must Read Topics
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