Need some help/advice - page 2
This may end up being a very long, post, but I will attempt to keep it as short as possible. I am an RN working nights at a teaching hospital, on the rehab unit. I spent about a year at a different... Read More
Nov 16, '06Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 14,167; Likes: 59,311[font="comic sans ms"]meet with your union rep before your pre-disciplinary meeting, and follow his/her advice. union reps have been through meetings like this before, and can tell you what to expect.
start looking for a new job immediately if you haven't already. given enough time (a couple of decades is probably about right) you can change things where you are, but do you really want to be this miserable for that long?
Nov 17, '06Occupation: Rehab nurse Joined: Oct '05; Posts: 25; Likes: 1Thanks for all of the advice--some of the things that have been mentioned are things that I thought of (like the tape recorder) but was unsure as to the legality of it. There have been no other reprimands, and all of my past reviews have been favorable. I do know that HR is planning on meeting with him, also. Just not sure of when. I realistically know that it may be time to move on, but, other than this current conflict, this is a really nice unit, and the benefits at this hospital are outstanding. I'm really ready to get out of the direct patient care aspect of this entirely, just not sure how to go about doing it. I will be meeting with the union rep before the meeting--I happen to know her, she is a very nice person. I am also putting all of my replies down on paper, just so there is no confusion, misquoting, or misunderstanding.
Nov 21, '06Occupation: Rehab nurse Joined: Oct '05; Posts: 25; Likes: 1Well, I went to the meeting, and it turned out to be kind of a "storm in a teacup". My union rep was awesome (and I did get to meet with her before the meeting). But now the whole night shift is divided into two "camps", so to speak. So I am basically toasted no matter what happens--if he doesn't receive any sort of disciplinary action for this, things will become MUCH WORSE and he will be even more unbearable. If he DOES receive disciplinary action, then all of his little comrades will be angry and will take it out on me. So, therefore, I have begun a new job search, which really stinks because the salary and benefits here are awesome. But I really think that I am ready to move out of the hospital and away from direct patient care. I don't know how long it will take before this is resolved.
Nov 21, '06Specialty: 20 year(s) of experience ; From: CA ; Joined: Oct '04; Posts: 1,975; Likes: 254they're making it unpleasant
figure what it is that he's trying to gain - and he's not going to give up
I've had someone tell lies about me - they are protecting themselves no matter what, and you won't be able to change that
good luck re: your new job search, there will be something new for you
Nov 21, '06Joined: Nov '06; Posts: 3,125; Likes: 2,996Ditto all of the above, arn't you oh so lucky to have union reresentation, I hope all goes well and your union rep is strong for you, if not I would get an attorney right after this meeting. For all you anti union nurses out there ,how would you like to walk into this kind of meeting alone? Post script, I am so happy the union rep was awsome, dont quit on account of that moron and his cohorts, it will blow over , BE STRONG.Last edit by Simplepleasures on Nov 21, '06
Nov 22, '06Occupation: RN - staff nurse in "the trenches" Specialty: 3 year(s) of experience in Med/Surg; Psych; Tele ; Joined: Aug '04; Posts: 397; Likes: 264I'm getting pissed off just reading about this fool! I've dealt with these kinds of idiots before and it can make your life miserable. I am so sorry you are having to deal with this. I would absolutely bring up that incident where he was not a team player, refusing reassignment of patient load. I realize that nurses technically have the right to refuse assignments, but this is usually referring to accepting an additional patient when the nurse feels the load is too heavy already. What he did seems like an overt act of insubordination. Maybe that's just me.
Hospitals are so political - it's sickening to think about sometimes. So, here you are going for a predisciplinary meeting after you've lodged a complaint that they have done nothing about. I agree with what the other poster said about that idiot creating a hostile work environment. You have to fight fire with fire. When you start using words like 'hostile work environment' and you have solid examples (with dates, times, witnesses, etc.), then these damn administrators might re-think who might be the better candidate for disciplining, or better yet letting go.
You need to point out the obvious to these folks on Friday...that the only reason they are hearing about all of these alleged breaks and avoidance of call lights now is because it was said in a classic defense maneuver by that $hithead, to take the focus off of his infractions. So that makes him not only a manipulator, but a liar as well.
Best of luck to you. I really hope this thing works out for you. Please let us know.
Nov 22, '06Occupation: RN - staff nurse in "the trenches" Specialty: 3 year(s) of experience in Med/Surg; Psych; Tele ; Joined: Aug '04; Posts: 397; Likes: 264OK, I guess I should have read the dates and also page 2 before replying = duh!
Who knows, maybe they will can his a$$ and then your problem would be solved. I don't think I would let it go though...the harrassment, not following MD orders, etc. I would work to get this guy fired before I left a good job. It just makes me mad that people like him get to win. And that is a pretty big loss if you ask me. No doubt, I would still be looking for another job, but I wouldn't leave without him leaving too!
Try playing the race card...see how they respond to a 'dumb blond' on that one!
I need sleep now. Good luck.
Dec 30, '06Occupation: Rehab nurse Joined: Oct '05; Posts: 25; Likes: 1So, everyone, it turns out that all the stuff he pulled was not "harassment". My manager informed that what he did was "bad behavior". And I get to go to a "communications" class ("your co-worker is your customer). I have been informed, however, that there will be consequences for him. Of course, I am not being told any details. And he has my manager so snowed. She told me that "he feels as bad about all of this as you do". I can't believe she's really buying into all his manipulative BS. So, for now, I am going to just keep going, keep looking around for other opportunities, and stay in kind of a "holding pattern".
Dec 30, '06Joined: Nov '06; Posts: 3,125; Likes: 2,996Im beginning to wonder what the heck is going on here in Wisconsin, so many horror stories, just seems like more of them in Wisconsin lately.
Dec 30, '06Joined: Dec '06; Posts: 2,135; Likes: 3,205The hospital sounds like they are trying to cover their own butt under the guise of his harassment just being "bad behavior." I would take this to the union rep and perhaps give a mention that you will be discussing his behavior with a labor lawyer as you were sure it was harassment. Even if you leave you might save another nurse from going through this horror.
I am also not so sure I would participate in a communications class under these circumstances. If only the two of you are being made to go, I would discuss this with the rep and labor lawyer as well. You aren't the problem...he is. Why should you have anyting on your record?!
Chances are they want one of you to leave as it benefits them. It is truly their loss that it will be the good and honorable nurse. He will do this again. They always do. I'm so sorry for you.Last edit by Batman24 on Dec 30, '06