Imposter "doctor" cruises the nursery - page 2
From Kansas: Scary isn't it? Posted on Sun, Jul. 07, 2002 Suspicious woman asked for location of newborn babies Police are investigating reports of a woman visiting hospitals in Wichita... Read More
Jul 12, '02Joined: Mar '01; Posts: 542; Likes: 44originally posted by cheerfuldoer
i like your style, prmenrs! :chuckle
here's a quote i have that we should get in the habit of repeating to a person who gets the jaws when we ask who they are and why are they on our nursing units:
"consider yourself warned in advance...i don't care if i offend you...now hand over some id, or i call security. better yet.....i'll drop you right where ya stand buster.
i love this!! :d
Jul 13, '02Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 608; Likes: 5I agree, in most cases you should always wear your ID . Only medical staff should be allowed to wear. My facility is pretty relaxed about uniforms with the exception that all there axillary staff wear a certain color scrub and all the nurses wear white pants. The only time I would advise against wearing an id is in pshych where a pt could use it to hurt themsleves or you.. (ever had someone try to strangle you with one of the ones you wear around your neck?) Even then I kept it im my scrub pocket and showed it to those who asked also I stated my name and qualification to new staff or pt.'s
Jul 13, '02Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 55Anybody could go to Wal-mart and buy someand walk into any hospital. who would know that they were not supposed to be there. It could be too late before someone realizes it
Jul 14, '02Occupation: Registered Nurse Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 67; Likes: 3I once asked the hosptial administrator for ID. It was 2200, and he was there with about 9 people, outside a pp nursery. I knew who he was but I was making the point that he had no ID and neither did they. One of the others leaned over and made a remark about "putting her in her place". The admin just grinned and said "she is in her place". The next evening, when I came into work, there was 1 red rose waiting for me, no card. LOL
Jul 15, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 5,673; Likes: 159Jurbyjunk, sounds like you've got a pretty cool administrator....and good for you for making the point!
I've made pointed comments to docs and others who nose into patient charts that are not any of their business....some gossipy docs particularly try to get involved in a 'problem' and like to spread dirt and stir the pot...
Usually I get chastised for having an attitude...as I've shared before the great majority of docs are real jerks at my last facility and administration caters to 'em.
Busy teaching hospitals with new groups of baby docs at all stages are tough...hard to keep track of 'em all...but I try to take the opportunity to introduce myself to 'em all while I'm checking their ID's out.
Ya'll are right...hospitals are WAY too lax with security and this is a disaster waiting to happen.
Jul 16, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Jul '02; Posts: 6At one facility where I woked on a Skilled Nursing Unit, we were made to enforce the strict confidentiality rules. No MD was to look at a residents chart unless he was an attending or a consulting physician on the case.
One day, a Pulmonologist came in to see a resident that was a personal family friend. The charge nurse on that day-not me-did not recognize this MD as he had priviledges at this facility but did not practice there very often and OF COURSE he was not wearing ID. The Charge Nurse politely informed him that he was NOT allowed to look at the charts. This MD got very angry and said to her, don't you know who I am? Of course the nurse said no but after he told her who he was she let him look at the patients chart anyway. I was the Charge RN the next day and I got a call from the MD's partner and he reamed me a new a$$hole for giving DR so and so a hard time yesterday. I politely explained to him our policy and then transferred his call to the DON and I let her handle it. The doctors were in the wrong in this case. I believe that the DON stuck up for us nurses and the doctor apologized to the other nurse.
Still, anybody wearing a labcoat and nice clothing with a stethoscope aroud their necks could strut into a hospital and as long as the acted like they belonged there, I'll bet few poeple would question them.
Jul 16, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 5,673; Likes: 159Angelnurse, I know what you mean. It's a fine line with chart access and confidentiality.....residents and nurses like to follow patients who move to a different unit sometimes for educational purposes. (sometimes I mosey out to the floor on a break and check the status of one of my CABG patients...and say Hi to him/her in the process)
But some docs are in the charts trying to drum up business...I had one GI who liked to look at charts indiscriminately THEN approach the attending and suggest a GI workup based on his nosing around....
Or they 'hear' about a problem with a patient..ie sentinel event or poor outcome that might go into litigation....and nose into it so they can gossip. This kind of stuff really pizzes me off.
Good for your DON for supporting you and initiating a policy!
Jul 16, '02Occupation: ER RN Specialty: ER,ICU,L&D,OR,ETC ; Joined: May '01; Posts: 5,588; Likes: 566Howdy yall
From deep in the hearty of texas
In that case speak softly and carry a 4 iron..............FORE