Good or Evil?

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I know, without getting too deep, that the only purpose a human being serves is to build the Kingdom of God in the physical world. Nursing provides a fantastic opportunity to do just that and still be able to make a living. But not everyone in nursing is building the Kingdom of God--some are just down right evil.

I knew a nurse once who I observed giving a 17-year old girl all the pain medication she wanted while at the same time refusing to give a homeless man adequate pain medication. The only motivation seemed to be that /p giving the pain meds the patient would have to be kept in the unit longer. Obviously the girl could stay, but the nurse didn't want the homeless man around. The nurse wanted him out and to the floor as soon as possible. Would you call this evil?

I'm being deliberatly vague to erase any possibility of linking this post to the actual persons involved.

The Monist

No. But I learned a lot. I'll never do the same thing when I'm an RN.

The Monist

Hopefully, she won't become an RN. She is obviously NOT a patient advocate.

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Specializes in Oncology/Haemetology/HIV.

She or He?

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........... God made us all different, yet we share a common thread...nursing. Therefore, treat everyone the same...with respect..and you can't go wrong. To say there is "blatant spiritual warfare on the floor and in the units" is to say that someone is possessed or who satan is using to tear us down (as Christians) spiritually. ............if I weren't already a Christian who was secure in my beliefs, YOU would DEFINITELY turn me completely OFF the Word of God. God wants us to be a living example ("...they will know us by our fruits") I hope you don't go around your unit "preaching" your twisted views of Christianity. Remember, God WILL hold you accountable for that, too. Sometimes, it's just better to shut our mouths and be a living example...like I try to do!

4greatkids, I edited the quote above here for space saving purposes... but in summation, what I wished to say is Well said.

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Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.

Snowy, i hope that the toilet that cat is looking in was CLEAN lol.

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Well, you are right about the "FRUIT" part. As in fruit loops.....

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It's funny that you're a secular humanist and don't believe in God, since God, Himself, aspires to be a secular humanist and has to try really hard to believe we exist. But that's another topic.

So you would call it negligence. So would I except I know the nurse knew exactly what he/she was doing. No negligence involved. If you don't like the word "evil" I could settle on the word "malice."

The Monist

If you felt someone was being "malice" in regard to patient care", why didn't you go to a supervisor and report this nurse?

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Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.

So are you saying that anyone whose motivation isn't building the Kingdom Of God evil? tmiller027, I with ya!

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Your theories are very intriguing, except for one small detail: I'm not an RN yet; I was a student. So, discount me, but I saw what I saw. If it makes you more comfortable, we can just drop this whole string and move on to some new business.

The Monist

When I was a nursing student, I would have gone to my instructor with questions or concerns. She would have reported this to the proper authorities.

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If you felt someone was being "malice" in regard to patient care", why didn't you go to a supervisor and report this nurse?

I was a student, and I didn't trust my own observations at the time.

The Monist

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So are you saying that anyone whose motivation isn't building the Kingdom Of God evil? tmiller027, I with ya!

No. I'm not, actually.

The Monist

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When I was a nursing student, I would have gone to my instructor with questions or concerns. She would have reported this to the proper authorities.

Oh. Well, it sounds like you had a positive learning environment in school.

The Monist

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Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
Your theories are very intriguing, except for one small detail: I'm not an RN yet; I was a student. So, discount me, but I saw what I saw. If it makes you more comfortable, we can just drop this whole string and move on to some new business.

The Monist

If the nurse truly witheld pain medicine because she didn't like the person you aren't going to find one of us that isn't going to say that was not wrong or unethical, and against the nurse practice act, and basically everything we stand for as nurses. Is it "evil"? There are so many definiitions of "evil" one could say it was.

But do you truly know her assessments and what her thinking was?

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