Ethics Violation-Would you remain silent or challenge the system?

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Today I was labeled a "whistleblower and tattletail because I, along with numerous other students, witnessed a table of individuals cheating on an exam in our Anatomy and Physiology class which is a major pre-req into entrance into the nursing program. One of the individuals completed the exam and recieved it back, and took the test back to the table where she distributed all the correct answers to them, in which they in turn proceeded to change all their previous answers. In absolute boldness, one of the girls said quite loudly, "what is the answer to the last one?", and the first individual read off the answers to her. The proffessor does not proctor the exams. He simply hands them out and grades them as soon as you complete them, and then hands them back with the right answers corrected in. He does not wait until each student has completed the exam to pass out the results. Nor does he cruise the classroom to make sure that everyone is done before begining a new lecture. I felt that this was a major loophole that obviously a table of students had taken advantage of. In his syllabus he states that SUSPICION of cheating will result in failure of the exams.

Because at least 15 other students witnessed the cheating as well, we held a brief meeting about the issue and I told them I would address the professor since I was sitting next to the students and saw the entire situation. After class myself and another student asked to speak to the professor in confidentiality. The accussed students had caught wind earlier that they were going to be outted and had actually stuck around in the classroom to see who the individuals were. After they left, I told the proffessor what I and the other students had witnessed. He shrugged his shoulders nonchalantly and told me there was nothing he could do since he didn't see it happening and that next time I would have to tell him while it is happening. He also stated "and if they cheated on the last exam it didn't help them much because they made a 55". They recieved a 98 (which is an A) on today's test that they cheated on. The proffessor regarded me with an "I could careless" attitude and proceeded to pack his things. He did not ask me any questions about who else was involved, raised no concern that he is passing CHEATING students with an A into a highly competitive medical program who are in direct violation of the Colleges Code of Ethics. As I left with the other student, we noticed that the accused were actually waiting on us to leave and procceeded to follow us and threaten us for telling on them. They cautioned that I had better mind my own business and continued with verbal harrassment to the point I had to use profanity to stop them from FOLLOWING ME TO MY CAR. This incident has been brought to the proffessors attention by more than one occasion and he has not taken any steps in changing the testing process.

There is going to be a pending investigation involving the students and the facult member who is now KNOWINGLY aiding them in their attempts to fraud the system. Nursing is a limited access program and is based solely on a point based system. Only sixty of 250 students are admitted each fall and to think that a group of UNQUALIFIED individuals are cheating their way to an open slot is a dissapointment to the College's Mission Statement. We do NOT NEED THESE TYPES OF PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF THE PUBLIC'S HEALTH! These are not leaders, these are not nurses. How would you feel if the doctor who was about to diagnose you had cheated is way through medical school? We have got to crack down on academic dishonesty and stop allowing it to continue because it's easy to turn the other cheek. How would you feel if you sacrificed work and family to dedicate yourself into getting into the nursing program, only to find out that there weren't enough slots, and the people who got in CHEATED their way in.

I am sorry for the detail but it is the only way to explain the severity of the situation. As professionals in the field who have worked very hard to get where you are, what would you have done?

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Quoting Reebok:

"Could it be that the purpose of you reporting the cheating was b/c there is a limited amount of space for acceptance into the nursing school and you wanted to increase the odds of you entering by expelling others. :devil: "

Who cares? this is wrong, no matter the motivation for reporting it!

":Human Anatomy&physiology is a pre-requisite course. I would be sympathetic about your situation if the severity of them cheating could eventually cause harm to the college's reputation and future risk for patient problems. For ex: Cheating in an actual NURSING COURSE w/ a clinical is much more important. Dont waste your time worrying about others. As long as you make sure that you are doing the right thing you will be okay. If the professor doesn't care why should you. "

Because these cheaters will be entering a profession in which safety and integrity cannot be separated or set aside in the name of CYA or efficiency. Simply-put, I don't want liars and cheaters caring for MY loved ones or myself. We should ALL care about this!

"Im not saying that cheating is okay. But I will say that reporting them makes you no better.:saint: Ask these questions first.

Prioritize: Is someone's life at stake? Will they eventually harm a patient?

Could the college's reputation suffer from this?"

"Prioritize"? I think letting liars and cheaters go on to graduate is a bad deal and it's right to report this to authorities who WILL care to do something about it.

I just had surgery today. I would hate to think such people would be involved in MY care. Patients are depending on our honesty and they can be quite emotionally and physically- vulnerable in the hospital. They often can't speak up for themselves or their safety, but as their nurse advocates, we have not only the authority but the responsibility to do so on their behalf. Liars and cheaters cannot be relied-upon to do this, frankly.

Again, who cares if the institution suffers? What about patient care and safety suffering? If those in authority are willing to turn their backs, maybe they deserve to have that happen (their reputation to suffer a bit). Otherwise, see my other words about not wanting liars and cheaters nursing me or mine. Funny how our ethics vary. But in nursing, ethics cannot be ignored or put aside. No way, no how. Don't mean to be picking on you, but after today, I myself, am reminded how it feels to be a patient and dependent on solid, comprehensive and empathetic nursing care.

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Im not saying that cheating is okay. But I will say that reporting them makes you no better.:saint: Ask these questions first.

Prioritize: Is someone's life at stake? Will they eventually harm a patient?

Could the college's reputation suffer from this?

Yes, a future patient's life could very well be at stake by an unethical nurse. The same student who cheats will also cover up medication errors, falsify documentation, and will also attempt to hide his or her mistakes. Lack of integrity is a very serious issue when patient's lives are at stake.

Reebok- All I have to say is that you sound like someone who has cheated in the past and possibly been caught by someone honest. Maybe not, but gee whiz, your attitude really stinks!

Rules are rules for a reason and not for people to break- blatanly or not. BUT when someone breaks them as BLATANT as these idiots do, then they certainly deserve to be caught for their own stupidity if nothing else! Every criminal knows that.

AND Cheating PERIOD is the same- shows a total lack of morals and also that a person has such a low opinion of themselves to think they can't make it on their own brains. I feel sorry for those that would even consider cheating!

Could it be that the purpose of you reporting the cheating was b/c there is a limited amount of space for acceptance into the nursing school and you wanted to increase the odds of you entering by expelling others. :devil:

Human Anatomy&physiology is a pre-requisite course. I would be sympathetic about your situation if the severity of them cheating could eventually cause harm to the college's reputation and future risk for patient problems. For ex: Cheating in an actual NURSING COURSE w/ a clinical is much more important. Dont waste your time worrying about others. As long as you make sure that you are doing the right thing you will be okay. If the professor doesn't care why should you.

Im not saying that cheating is okay. But I will say that reporting them makes you no better.:saint: Ask these questions first.

Prioritize: Is someone's life at stake? Will they eventually harm a patient?

Could the college's reputation suffer from this?

Oh and cheaters tend to be liars. Would you want this person on the floor with you and make a HUGE error, and then have them cover it up and finger YOU and YOU lose your license and cred for this idiots fall!?!? Trust me, it's happened!

I'd be a little concerned about someone working for or with me that felt the way the negative post expressed. I'd suggest that the question of nursing ethics comes into question even in the world of academia. Will the cheaters be the nurses whose research is plagerized or fraudulant and in fact effects the treatment of patients? The best education for the "cheaters" would be to expell them if that's what school policy suggests or disciplinary action with publicity to dissuade others from turning to dishonesty. I hope the professor wasn't tenured and can be redirected in his career since it appears he's not a role model for students. Best of luck to you...maybe you could take these posts to the Dean or if you are studying near to a hospital with an Ethics Committee you may gain some support there.

Very good!! Bravo to you :)

When I was in nursing school, I had a fellow student approach me a few times offering to pay me to write a care plan for him (I was getting 96-100 on all mine and he was struggling). Initially, I thought he was being a smartass and just joking because he was 'one of those' who would do that just to let you know he didn't approve of your doing well when he wasn't, as if it were some sort of freak luck thing. After a couple more times it was sounding less and less like a joke and more like a genuine intent to cheat and involve me in his misdeeds, as much as he tried to make it sound jokular. As soon as he did this the third time, while at clinicals no less, I approached my instructor and reported him. She was not pleased to say the least. She had a long, serious word with him, where I'm sure he assured her he was just being a goof and meant nothing by it. He remained in the program for one more semester before he failed out, all everyone else's fault, of course. He had plans to go to a different program where things were ''much better'' and I happen to know it isn't but oh well! Anyway, I felt good that I'd reported him and it didn't bother me in the least the rest of the time he was in the program and treated me like crap.

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Vicky gave excellent advice on how to approach this problem while taking steps to protect yourself.

To the poster who questions whether the OP may simply want to get some of the competition out of the way by seeing the cheating students dismissed prior to admission to the actual nursing program: If these students can't hack A&P without cheating, how are they going to get thru the actual nursing program without cheating? Pre-reqs exist for a reason, and that reason is to weed out those who are likely to fail at the next level. If students cheat their way into nursing courses, only to fail 1-2 semesters down the road, they have taken up valuable space in the nursing program that should have gone to competent, deserving students. That harms us all, both financially, and in the quality of nurses who graduate.

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The very limited slots people vie for need to go to folks who do not cheat! Think about that.

Yes, you did the right thing! As you found out, it's not always easy or even welcomed. Especially after this happened (professors' response, harrassment by the cheaters) you need to take it higher as others have suggested. What about the other students who volunteered you? Are they now backing out or standing behind you? Try to get as many of them as possible to go with you when you report the cheaters and the professor.

I'm proud of you. You belong in this profession!

DeLana :yelclap:

Yes, a future patient's life could very well be at stake by an unethical nurse. The same student who cheats will also cover up medication errors, falsify documentation, and will also attempt to hide his or her mistakes. Lack of integrity is a very serious issue when patient's lives are at stake.

I will respond to you b/c so far you have had the best answer or reply to my controversial statement. I agree with you. But for a student who cheats on a A&P test alone does not mean that he will automatically cover up med-errors or falsify documentation and the student who earned his grade wont. You could look at it in a different way. That cheater may be more likely to double, triple check when administering meds or often seek help from other nurses to avoid certain mistakes.

My question for you is Can you honestly say that you've never cheated on a test? Not the whole test maybe 1 answer. from pre-k to bachelors degree.

And if you are a person with that much integrity. Certainly you've never made a med error or falsified documents or covered up any mistake throughout your whole nursing career. Every nurse has made a mistake. And admitting up to it at the right time is when ethics is involved. What I meant by prioritize: It's a pre-req.,professor doesn't care. In the actual Nursing school it matters. There are M.D.'s who have made straight A's their entire life and have never cheated but fail when it comes to ethical delimmas. Trust me a pre-req. test is not the best determination for ethical standards. I would hope a criminal record would be weighted more heavily.

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I will respond to you b/c so far you have had the best answer or reply to my controversial statement. I agree with you. But for a student who cheats on a A&P test alone does not mean that he will automatically cover up med-errors or falsify documentation and the student who earned his grade wont. You could look at it in a different way. That cheater may be more likely to double, triple check when administering meds or often seek help from other nurses to avoid certain mistakes.

My question for you is Can you honestly say that you've never cheated on a test? Not the whole test maybe 1 answer. from pre-k to bachelors degree.

And if you are a person with that much integrity. Certainly you've never made a med error or falsified documents or covered up any mistake throughout your whole nursing career. Every nurse has made a mistake. And admitting up to it at the right time is when ethics is involved. What I meant by prioritize: It's a pre-req.,professor doesn't care. In the actual Nursing school it matters. There are M.D.'s who have made straight A's their entire life and have never cheated but fail when it comes to ethical delimmas. Trust me a pre-req. test is not the best determination for ethical standards. I would hope a criminal record would be weighted more heavily.

Honey, if you can't take a failing grade because you either weren't able to get an A or you didn't study, you have no business being a nurse.

Cheating is just one symptom of not being able to cut it, at whatever level.

And no, I never did cheat. I was the nerd on the end of the front row keeping my paper covered.

Heck NO I have NEVER cheated- at ANYTHING.

Your reasoning that cheaters would double or triple check is flawed. If they are already in a pattern of taking the easy way out I can assure you that in most they do they will take the easy way out.

EVERY SITUATION YOU ENCOUNTER IN LIFE is a determination of ethical standards- don't you get it??

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