Gateway Fast Track LPN - after 1 month-my experiences

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This forum has been my primary resource to find answers about what to expect as a new student @ Gateway, and one thing I've noticed is dozens of threads asking about what goes on once you actually begin block 1 - especially in regards to what might be helpful to study before classes start.

I'm sure I'll forget some things, but here's what I've experienced in the first month...

Lectures are once a week, and "labs" are twice a week - this could be because I'm enrolled in a Summer schedule and they needed to get the hours in somewhere. Clinicals for us are 12 hours, on Saturdays, but we've been told that they avoid Saturday placements whenever possible.

Grading - 76% is passing, 75.9% is failing, and they don't do rounding. Attendance - you get to miss ONE lab or clinical per semester. My clinical instructor said if you're really sick, come to clinicals anyway and she'd try to find an "alternate" assignment if at all possible, that didn't involve patient contact.

225 points for quizzes( 9 quizzes total), 75 points for the final. No points for clinical or lab time, it's either pass or fail.

There is a medication math quiz, 10 questions - not part of your grade, but you can't pass meds until you pass the test. At least one clinical instructor has her own test, you must pass both tests to pass meds with her. You get three chances to pass, after you take the quiz twice, our instructor makes you wait and review for a month before your third and final try. Not sure what happens if you fail 3 times - I doubt it's good.

Quiz number one was 15 questions, it was given 2 weeks into class, and covered 13 chapters. Yeah, you read that right - get out your reading glasses. We covered a ton of material very quickly, but it was primarily CNA-type material, and for fast track, you already took a CNA class. Things like vital signs, ROM, Scope of Practice, PPE.

Quiz #2, 25 points - covered 22 chapters (a couple of different books) , and a couple of electronic modules (evolve, EDGT, etc) - The eight "rights of medication" (look up the five rights, then add, - right to refuse, right documentation, and right supplies).

Quiz #3 was 30 points, and ONLY covered 11 chapters... :)... medication/biology, etc...

I'm not trying to scare anyone, this is what I experienced, and FWIW, the quizzes weren't easy, but you aren't likely to fail if you did the reading. My average is currently 85%, and I have no background in healthcare at all.

As you can imagine - they're looking mostly for concepts, not factoids.

Clinicals so far have been a blast for me - I got a great instructor who told us on the first day that we'd walk out of her clinicals with almost every single proceedure on our chart checked off, if they did that proceedure @ this facility, and so far we seem to be on track. I did clinical #2 last week, and so far, I've been checked off on accuchecks, passing meds, wound care, and foleys.

For some instructors you need a care plan every single week, and my instructor said we only need 3 for the semester, but they better not be cut-n-paste plans. They have to be well thought out, specific (customized) to the client, and you need to be able to explain why you're doing what your doing to the instructor. I haven't turned one in yet, and the patient I picked week one went home Saturday, so I get to start over...:crying2:

As for what you'll experience in month 1 - it could be WAAAAY different... I've already experienced some instructors that do a great job of putting you to sleep or confusing you. I hope that isn't who you get, but understand they are out there.

Update post....

I took my final today - checked my grades a couple hours later, and it looks like I made it through. (Blackboard crashed right after I checked my grades, I'm hoping it wasn't a cruel mistake!)

I took the Hesi-PN a couple of weeks ago and scored 984, supposedly that's in the 88th percentile of 16,000 PN students across the country who've taken the test. Hesi shows my class's average was 886 - from what I've heard, that's a pretty good average score.

Most that I talked to in the class were in pretty decent shape going into the final, but every one of us wished we had scored just a few more points on the quizzes, so you would have more "wiggle room" on the final.

To those that follow, get ready for a heck of a ride...... :yeah:

Specializes in ER.

So do you feel like it was challenging to get those good scores and grades? Or do you feel like most of the students did well in the course? How much time did you spend studying? Also, does anyone know if you have to have micro in order to move on to block 3 and apply?

I am still on the waiting list for the fast track program, but just trying to gather more insight on others experiences, and the program in general.

How much time did you spend studying on average each week? I am a teacher, so am wondering how this will work with my schedule....

Specializes in Hopice and School Nurse.

How much time did you spend studying on average each week? I am a teacher, so am wondering how this will work with my schedule....

I am just finishing the first semester and I can say that it is a LOT of work. I work full time (three 12 hour shifts) and I have kids, etc. I probably study about 15-20 hours per week depending on whether there is a test that week or not. The first month is brutal mostly because the teacher we had gave 5 point tests over many chapters with no clear idea what she was going to ask. So, we had to study everything possible for just 5 points. Plus she would throw stuff at us last minute and expect us to have a bunch of stuff memorized for the next class and we'd all have to work the next day so we wouldn't have time to study. Organization was just not part of the class in the beginning and it made for a very harried start.

Then the NCLEX-style tests started and it was yet another whole ballgame. The questions are really difficult to decifer at first and it took me awhile to get used to them. I still don't feel confident about my test taking strategies although I'm doing okay on the tests. A lot of students in my class have dropped out already, many in just the last couple weeks. It is really sad because some of them were really great people.

The only thing that is graded is the tests, none of the projects, practicums, case studies, homework, etc. So, you have to do well on the tests or you fail, but there is a lot of required busy work you have to do that doesn't affect your grade. I think it is an awesome program in so many ways, but if you are used to acing tests and getting high A's in classes be prepared to get a huge blow to your self esteem. I'm sure there are those getting good scores in my class because they are awesome test takers and really understand the NCLEX questions or they don't have a ton of kids to worry about, but most of us are just happy to be passing.

Also, if you can take your prereqs and coreqs while waiting to get in, do it! I'm not sure how I'd be doing without that experience. Some people haven't done them and they are doing okay, but I'm sure it's more of a struggle for them. Don't put it off thinking you will have time later, do it now. I believe that in order to start block 3 you must have them completed and you definitely don't want to be taking these classes during nursing school.

Good luck to everyone who got in for January and for those still waiting. It's worth the wait!! :)

***Miteacher...have you looked into GCU? This is the route I am now going, and I thought about your situation when I was listening to their program options. They offer night and weekend programs in various campus locations throughout the valley. Just a thought if you are still looking for some other options. Either way good luck!***

So do you feel like it was challenging to get those good scores and grades? Or do you feel like most of the students did well in the course? How much time did you spend studying? Also, does anyone know if you have to have micro in order to move on to block 3 and apply?

I am still on the waiting list for the fast track program, but just trying to gather more insight on others experiences, and the program in general.

How much time did you spend studying on average each week? I am a teacher, so am wondering how this will work with my schedule....

I wouldn't call it "easy", but it was 100% do-able, even with no healthcare background. I know some students had to work harder than others - getting used to nclex-style questions is probably the hardest part - there's no clear concrete answer, you have to pick the "best" answer, so even if you score 100% on a test, you'll leave the test wondering if you even got 50%... :cool:

The time commitment is more in your clinical and lab hours - we had fifteen 12hr clinicals in block 2, and depending on your instructor, you'll likely have to spend a few hours preparing a care plan before most of those clinicals. Add in the quizzes, the Hesi, and the final, and block two is a serious butt-kicker.

I was chatting with another student before the final today, and we both felt really, really "stupid"... There's just so much "testable" material in the book that you really can't know it all.

After passing the class, you'll know how much you don't know...

Specializes in ER.

I did think about Grand Canyon, but don't they have a lot of pre requisite requirements? I wasn't aware that they had a night program, but I will look into it. I had considered the accelereated program at NAU, but the cost of living there temporarily, and not being able to work was too much for me.

So would all the classes be at night and on the weekends? I work until almost 4. Thanks for the information, I will definitely try to find more information on it.

Specializes in ER.
also do the nclex questions related to the body system you are studying. i wish i had done this first semester, didn't really utilize nclex until 2nd semester. it makes such a difference on the quizzes. actually, 2nd semester i just skimmed the chapter and then did nclex questions over and over. the review class is very helpful, as they pretty much go over the quiz....at least they did in my case.

is the review class something separate that you have to sign up for? or is it another optional course?

Is the review class something separate that you have to sign up for? Or is it another optional course?

The review class is a separate 1 credit/hr course - you can sign up after classes start if you want. The value will depend on who is teaching it - for block one, Much of what was covered in the review ended up on the test, for block 2 it was more test-taking-strategies which didn't do much for me, so I skipped several of them.

Specializes in ER.

So you were able to wait and sign up? What time of day was the class? Do you know the course number?

miteacher,

The 1 credit review class is scheduled differently for day or evening classes. In the eve program...we meet on Tuesdays at 345pm-445pm. I am not sure when they meet for the day program. There won't be a course number until after the semester starts and then they will hand out an add form for the class. Hope that helps.

Specializes in ER.
miteacher,

The 1 credit review class is scheduled differently for day or evening classes. In the eve program...we meet on Tuesdays at 345pm-445pm. I am not sure when they meet for the day program. There won't be a course number until after the semester starts and then they will hand out an add form for the class. Hope that helps.

Thanks for the information, I work until almost 4, so that probably won't work for me. I guess I will have to do my best on my own unless I leave work early. Did you think that it was worthwhile and that it made a difference in your grades? Could you only attend certain sessions if you wanted to? Did most of the students attend the review class?

Specializes in ER.
miteacher,

The 1 credit review class is scheduled differently for day or evening classes. In the eve program...we meet on Tuesdays at 345pm-445pm. I am not sure when they meet for the day program. There won't be a course number until after the semester starts and then they will hand out an add form for the class. Hope that helps.

I was looking at the schedule for Spring, and it said that Gateway had a structured nursing review course for 1 credit online, or in person. Did they have the online course for the PN program?

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