Future looks bleak for CRNAs

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Thesre will be not much jobs and hence unemployment in 2022 onwards

http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/2010/RAND_RB9541.pdf

Specializes in critcal care, CRNA.
For God sake Do not ever compare Anesthesiology residency with CRNA school.There is hell of difference in capabilities of applicants.

Make sure not to say things like this if you do get an interview and find yourself in a position to get into school. You may also need to humble your physician roots while working as a nurse. It may be a bitter pill to swallow if a physician tells you how to proceed while treating a patient and you do not agree.

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For God sake Do not ever compare Anesthesiology residency with CRNA school.There is hell of difference in capabilities of applicants.

This is a foolish statement, especially coming from someone who has not achieved admittance into a CRNA program and experienced the curriculum and clinical rotations. I'm assuming from your posts and loose grasp on the medical/anesthesia world in America that you're originally from a different country. The education and training rigors of medical school or a CRNA doctorate in America will be very different than most other countries. Just do your best in school, work hard on perfecting your English, complete all the steps to submit your application and try to stay humble.

Morificeko, "You may also need to humble your physician roots while working as a nurse. It may be a bitter pill to swallow if a physician tells you how to proceed while treating a patient and you do not agree."

I'm assuming you're referring to when this student finishes their BSN and is working in the ICU to satisfy his critical care experience requirement to apply to CRNA school. Just to clear the statement for anyone confused as a CRNA you're an independent anesthesia provider and no physician tells you how to proceed while treating a patient. In that case, they would need to come provide the anesthesia themselves if they are so opinionated. If you're working in an ACT model an anesthesiologist may give their opinion on how they would proceed and you would be wise to listen to your colleague if they give sound advice. That isn't to be confused with someone telling you what to do or how to practice anesthesia.

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Specializes in critcal care, CRNA.

Correct. There's nothing wrong with the term nurse but I would never leave out the credentials of a CRNA.

I would also also add that having a great GPA and experience is only part of the puzzle. If you don't interview well then they could care less about who you are or were. You could also get through most of your CRNA program and be removed. Some programs will remove poor performers and people with poor attitudes. Many people have been released after making it most of the way through.

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Guys relax.I did not undermine CRNA.Anesthesia is my passion and even though I got good scores on USMLE that were in range for primary care residencies but not for Anesthesia.That is why I turned towards CRNA route.I am humble,I am hardworking and I know how to respect professions.I just said what I think.Again it is my personal opinion.Yes I am from foreign country.But in USA,every person deserves the fruit of hard work.Right? So that I am doing.

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Specializes in critcal care, CRNA.
For God sake Do not ever compare Anesthesiology residency with CRNA school.There is hell of difference in capabilities of applicants.

With the political nature of this comment you will catch heat from most every CRNA you will meet unless they just don't care about their livelihood. In the CRNA world you will see us compare ourselves to them all the time. Another thing to remember when discussing CRNA school.

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Specializes in Anesthesia.
For God sake Do not ever compare Anesthesiology residency with CRNA school.There is hell of difference in capabilities of applicants.

Then tell us those differences. Do you mean I can't provide independent anesthesia to all PS/ASA classifications? I can't provide front line military trauma support as the only anesthesia provider? I can't work as the only anesthesia provider in the hospital? Or maybe you mean that CRNAs can't provide anesthesia for certain types of surgeries?

Myself and many other CRNAs have done all those things, and we will continue to provide anesthesia in the United States as safely and effectively as our anesthesiologist colleagues all the while continuing to provide the vast majority of anesthetics in the U.S..

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I never meant to underestimate CRNA practice.I just said those words for the applicants of both CRNA and Anesthesia residency.That doctors have way more solid medical knowledge after medical school than nurses after BSN.

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Specializes in Anesthesia.
I never meant to underestimate CRNA practice.I just said those words for the applicants of both CRNA and Anesthesia residency.That doctors have way more solid medical knowledge after medical school than nurses after BSN.

As you have no experience with either one it is a mute point. They both learn to provide anesthesia in their individual school or residency. They both have a slightly different approach to training that leads to similar outcomes. The medical school/residency does not make MDAs a better provider. It does them give a slightly different perspective sometimes, but as I already pointed out the outcomes are the same.

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Absolutely agreed.But why there is so much difference in salaries?

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Specializes in Anesthesia.
Absolutely agreed.But why there is so much difference in salaries?

I am really beginning to think you are from SDN, but the answer would be politics, marketing, and the billing structure for medical direction.

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Specializes in CRNA.

"I never meant to underestimate CRNA practice.I just said those words for the applicants of both CRNA and Anesthesia residency.That doctors have way more solid medical knowledge after medical school than nurses after BSN."

Well maybe you never meant to underestimate CRNAs, but I think you have. Applicants to CRNA programs have hands on clinical experience caring for critically ill patients. CRNA applicants know how to manage multiple priorities in real time. Brand new anesthesia residents do not have this experience. Delivering an anesthetic is much closer to the practice of nursing than medicine. What other physician sits and monitors VS reacting on a minute to minute basis, or not react, as appropriate? I've helped new residents with the most basic functions that an ICU nurse can do automatically. If you are going to view a CRNA career as 'second best' then it's probably not a good choice.

wtbcrna, I had the same thought about SDN.

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For God sake Do not ever compare Anesthesiology residency with CRNA school.There is hell of difference in capabilities of applicants.

Wow...your command of American expression just got really better! It's a miracle.

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