Frustrated.. LVN license delayed

LadyinScrubs, ASN, RN · Nov 29, 2011

Your licenseis delayed because of a "speeding ticket"--speeding tickets are infractions and should not delay your license.

Born2help · Nov 29, 2011

That's what I thought... but I was later told that tickets in excess of 300 dollars need to be disclosed. My license isn't being delayed due to the actual ticket, but rather the fact that I failed to disclose it on my license.

LadyinScrubs, ASN, RN · Nov 29, 2011

That is crazy. A ticket for going over 10 miles above any speed limit can be $150 and then if you want to go to traffic school add in another $125 that means that a regular ticket can be a minimum of $275 or more. Use the carpool laine and in Los Angeles it is a minimum of $275 without court fees or anything else. Park in a handicapped space and it is over $300. The amount of the ticket is not the issue as they are all infractions; it is not a misdeameanor or a felony. From what I understand these need to be disclosed. Now, if your ticket was for something that eventually became a misdomeanor or felony, then that could be the problem. If what you say is true, then most of us on this site would be in violation.

Okayestdad78 · Nov 30, 2011

I have only seen that happen processing people for the Army. When did they have you feel out that paperwork? I didn't get asked any of those questions while applying to the school I am in. Was it for the NNCLEX?

Born2help · Nov 30, 2011

If what I say is true? I hope I'm taking that the wrong way as that is slightly offensive. LOL. I joined this forum because most members seem to be very helpful and friendly. I was looking for honest input, not to be judged on the validity of my post. LadyInScrubs, I have really enjoyed reading many of your posts on this site. I believe you attended ISU and I was interested in this program at one point. So please don't take this the wrong way, but I guess I don't understand why you would question if I'm being honest in my description of what happened.

Back to the point-- I called the enforcement analyst and she confirmed that all tickets that have to do with SPEEDING need to be disclosed if they are in excess of 300 dollars or more in CA. I am not sure about other states. So now I'm in a waiting game. My school didn't do a good job of explaining that all speeding tickets need to be disclosed if they are in excess of 300 dollars. Ah well. Good info for others who don't know, I suppose.

LadyInScrubs, sorry if my post seems to be an attack on you, but I guess I don't understand why someone would question someone else's truthfullness on a site like this. Sorry if this sounds rude, again, but I'm just frustrated at this point.

Here's from the CA BON website:

2. Do you have to report traffic violations and/or automobile accidents?

Yes, if a traffic ticket was issued and you were fined over $300.

So I guess that answers the question regarding whether it needs to be reported or not.

Trauma Columnist · Nov 30, 2011

Wow. I had no idea that speeding tickets are an issue in some states.

Zadia · Nov 30, 2011

I had the same issue with my school. I paid the $7.95 fee to get my early results from Pearson and printed it out. I took it to the office bc it said that I passed on the form...they're using that to let me get started for the lpn to rn bridge program, you should talk to your school, explain the situation and hope they will do the same for you. My schools policy is that they needed a copy of my license and it takes 4-6 weeks to get that from the board of nursing in Ohio so i tried that trick and so far so good.

Good luck!

LadyinScrubs, ASN, RN · Nov 30, 2011

if what i say is true? i hope i'm taking that the wrong way as that is slightly offensive. lol. i joined this forum because most members seem to be very helpful and friendly. i was looking for honest input, not to be judged on the validity of my post. ladyinscrubs, i have really enjoyed reading many of your posts on this site. i believe you attended isu and i was interested in this program at one point. so please don't take this the wrong way, but i guess i don't understand why you would question if i'm being honest in my description of what happened.
back to the point-- i called the enforcement analyst and she confirmed that all tickets that have to do with speeding need to be disclosed if they are in excess of 300 dollars or more in ca. i am not sure about other states. so now i'm in a waiting game. my school didn't do a good job of explaining that all speeding tickets need to be disclosed if they are in excess of 300 dollars. ah well. good info for others who don't know, i suppose.
ladyinscrubs, sorry if my post seems to be an attack on you, but i guess i don't understand why someone would question someone else's truthfullness on a site like this. sorry if this sounds rude, again, but i'm just frustrated at this point.
here's from the ca bon website:
2. do you have to report traffic violations and/or automobile accidents?
yes, if a traffic ticket was issued and you were fined over $300.
so i guess that answers the question regarding whether it needs to be reported or not.

sorry you feel attacked. however, to confirm "all tickets that have to do with speeding need to be disclosed if they are in excess of 300 dollars or more in ca" i looked up the information on the ca bon. this is what i found.

california deptment of consumer affairs

board of vocational nursing & psychiatric technicians

enforcement - frequently asked questions

retrieved from http://www.bvnpt.ca.gov/enforcement/enforcement_faq.shtml#a1

convictions

- 1. do i have to report an arrest to the board, if i was not convicted?

no. you only need to report an arrest if you were convicted.

- 2. do i have to report automobile accidents to the board?

yes, if a traffic ticket was issued and you were fined over $300, you must report the automobile accident to the board.

- 3. what happens if i can´t obtain certified court documents and police reports on prior convictions?

you must obtain written confirmation of this fact from the applicable court and/or police department, specifying that they could not locate the required documents. the board will verify this fact and will base its decision for licensure on other available information; for example, letters of recommendation, evidence of rehabilitation, etc.

- 4. do i have to report non-payment of child support?

no. this issue will not cause your license to be denied, however, if the non-payment is turned over to the district attorney´s (da) office for non-payment, the da will notify the department of consumer affairs – family support unit. if you are deemed eligible for licensure, your license will be issued on a temporary basis for 150 days. if, at the end of that time period, you have not established a payment agreement with the da´s office, your license will be suspended.

- 5. do i have to report a conviction that was expunged; for example, a conviction that was stricken or deleted from official records?

yes, you must report all expunged convictions. pursuant to penal code section 1203.4, you are required to report a conviction that was expunged. the law specifies that it "does not relieve him or her of the obligation to disclose the conviction in response to any direct question contained in any questionnaire or application for public office, for licensure by any state or local agency, . . . ."

- 6. what happens if i fail to disclose all or part of my prior convictions?

your failure to disclose all or part of your past convictions may be deemed grounds for disciplinary action as you falsified information required on your application for licensure. your license may be denied.

- 7. do i have to report misdemeanors, felonies and/or convictions which i pled nolo contendere?

yes. pursuant to business and professions code sections 2878.6 (vn practice act) and 4523 (pt law), a plea or verdict of guilty or a conviction following a plea of nolo contendere made to a charge substantially related to the qualifications, functions and duties of an lvn or pt is deemed to be a conviction.

- 8. do i have to report juvenile convictions if i was tried as an adult?

yes. if you were under 18 years of age and were tried and convicted as an adult, you are required to disclose this juvenile conviction.

- 9. do i have to report military convictions or a dishonorable discharge?

yes. any conviction or disciplinary action during your military career must be reported to the board on the record of conviction form.

- 10. do i have to report traffic violations?

yes, if the traffic violation involved alcohol or controlled substances or if a fine was over $300.

- 11. what happens if i have a lot of traffic violations?

it depends on the violations. repeated "minor" violations show a disregard for the law and will be considered in the board´s evaluation of your application for licensure.

- 12. do i have to report traffic violations that required jail time?

yes. any offense that required you to be imprisoned, jailed, confined, fined and/or placed on probation must be reported to the board.

- 13. how does the board determine which violations are substantially related to the applicant´s license?

pursuant to the california code of regulations, sections 2521 (vn regulations) and 2578 (pt regulations), a crime or act is considered to be substantially related to the qualifications, functions or duties of an lvn or pt if to a substantial degree it evidences present or potential unfitness of an lvn or pt to perform the functions authorized by his/her license in a manner consistent with the public health, safety or welfare. such crimes or acts include, but are not limited to those involving the following issues:

o procuring a license by fraud, misrepresentation or mistake.

o a conviction of practicing medicine without a license.

o violating or attempting to violate, directly or indirectly, or assisting in or abetting the violation of, or conspiring to violate any provision or term of the vn practice act or pt law.

o aiding or assisting, or agreeing to aid or assist any person or persons, whether a licensed physician or not, in the performance of or arranging for a violation of any of the provisions of the medical board of california practice act.

o conviction of a crime involving fiscal dishonesty.

o any crime or act involving the sale, gift, administration, or furnishing of "narcotics or dangerous drugs or dangerous devices" as defined in the pharmacy practice act, section 4022.

with the financial problems calif is having, fines for traffic tickets have increased. while i do not have proof, most traffic tickets are now around $300-400 (and that is without any court costs or traffic school). it appears that the board has not kept current with the cost of traffic tickets. it also appears that they are wasting my tax dollars denying and investigating people who had a infraction traffic ticket, without property damage or involving substances. thank you for bring this to our attention. i will work on this. as a calif taxpayer, i am not a happy person about receiving this information.

LadyinScrubs, ASN, RN · Nov 30, 2011

An eyeopener for those of us who drive in Calif. Go to the link below

http://www.snopes.com/politics/traffic/california2011.asp

it outlines the huge traffic fines that are now levied on drivers.

Example:

$436 fail to stop at a red signal.

$214 unsafe speed - 1 to 15 miles over limit

$328 unsafe speed 16 to 25 over limit

$214, 380 or 400 Fail to stop at stop sign

The costs do not end there. Total bail amount includes base cost of the ticket plus additional penalities per specific code sections, and a 20% surcharge on the base bail. The costs do not end here as there are others depending on the city/county the traffic ticket was received.

Clearly the CA LVN Board is behind times.

Born2help · Nov 30, 2011

Zadia-- thank you for your response :). I did explain the situation to the school I am interested in attending and they gave me hope that I might still make it in time for January bridge as long as I provide proof that I did indeed pass the nclex. I just hate this whole waiting game.

Ladyinscrubs-- your post was an eye opener. It's complete... For lack of a better phrase- crap- that they hold up people's applications due to these speeding tickets. While I understand that they want you to fully and honestly disclose everything, why the heck should traffic violations where no arrest or alcohol was involved need to cause such an uproar with the board? It's ridiculous red tape at this point. Thanks for your response :)

LadyinScrubs, ASN, RN · Nov 30, 2011

zadia-- thank you for your response :). i did explain the situation to the school i am interested in attending and they gave me hope that i might still make it in time for january bridge as long as i provide proof that i did indeed pass the nclex. i just hate this whole waiting game.
ladyinscrubs-- your post was an eye opener. it's complete... for lack of a better phrase- crap- that they hold up people's applications due to these speeding tickets. while i understand that they want you to fully and honestly disclose everything, why the heck should traffic violations where no arrest or alcohol was involved need to cause such an uproar with the board? it's ridiculous red tape at this point. thanks for your response :)

as i posted in an earlier response, we all could be in trouble if we had a moving ticket and failed to disclose the amount of the fine--which probably is at or above the $300 limit that the ca lvn board requires disclosure.