Published Dec 18, 2003
Noney
564 Posts
Hi everyone. I had my first day of orientation in icu today. It was great. I really think I'm going to like it. I just transferred after 2 years on med/tele.
One of the things that bothered me was the way some of the docters interacted with the icu nurses, some of the doc's that treat nurse's on the floor poorly seemed to treat the icu nurses completed differently. I think I'll enjoy this:D , but it bothers me that they judge a nurse's competency based on where they work.
Oh, well I'm back for 12 more in the morning. (Which is another thing getting up in the wee hours for orientation when I am used to nights:eek: )
heimanb
7 Posts
That's great! I'm glad you had such a positive experience, and hope it gets even better from here. I'm still in school, but plan to work in cardiac ICU after graduating. I've heard that critical care nurses tend to be given a little more respect since they are often required to make lifesaving decisions before the MD can intervene. It's too bad that the countless, equally important decisions made by nurses in less intense circumstances aren't equally appreciated by all. It must be remembered that each and every team member working with a patient has the power to help or hinder the client in their healing process.
Again, best of luck--
Ben
Tweety, BSN, RN
35,413 Posts
Good luck!!
We have some trauma docs that will laugh and joke on trauma med-surg. If they have a patient in the cardiac unit they act likes jackasses. I hate when they don't treat all professionals equally.
Repat
335 Posts
Not only where you work, but what gender you are. I work with two nurses who are men, and they definitely get more respect. Anyone else notice this?
traumaRUs, MSN, APRN
88 Articles; 21,268 Posts
I'm a female nurse who works in the ER - our docs respect us and are very nice to work with. Certainly everything isn't always wonderful, but overall my experience has been positive and I've worked here for 7 1/2 years.
jackieliz
36 Posts
Yup--I've definitely noticed a gender thing. I don't think I've ever heard a surgeon yell at one of our male nurses. Frustrating, we all work just as hard!!
butterphlyrn
9 Posts
I too have noticed a gender difference in my hospital. MY husband is also a nurse and actually we work in the same unit.
The female doctors we work for expected more out of woman nurses because we are suppose to be smarted then men, so they are hard on woman nurses and pretty much let the men off the hook and many issues.
The male MD's treat the woman nurses as sex objects. I have rather large breast. I don't wear things to work that accentuate them but male doctors look at my breast before and during talking to me.
But I do have to say on a whole I do think we get respected more in ICU than we do else where. I use to work on a step down CABG unit and a Step down ICU before going to ICU and I noticed that once I got to ICU doctors that normally won't talk to me on any leval were having personal converstations with me. HMMMMMM!!!!!!!!
Geeg
401 Posts
Male pts think of us as sex objects too. When I went into my male pts rm and introduced myself he said: "There are certainly some pretty nurses, here." So I said: " Luckily , the nurses here are very smart, also."
I sometimes think the docs respond to who gives them the most attention. Some females are a bit off putting or even timid around docs and the males approach the docs on a different more friendly more confident level and the docs pick up on this. (Some males have egos that need to be stroked by a doc, not to bash my own sex, but I've seen it.)
I tend to talk to docs only professionally and not to chit chat. I worked with a female that would bat her blue eyes "high Dr. So & So". Docs don't give me the time of day and talk to her like an old friend.
I think ICU nurses need to have the confidence to communicate with the docs to tell about a more sicker patient and thus develop a better rapport.
I don't think docs consciously treat people better, but pick up on "vibes" from the person. Males, females, ICU nurses perhaps give off different vibes. Partly it's learned behavior.
We have a lot of female docs at our hospital, and a lot of female residents. I don't see them letting the males off the hook more than the females, or being more harsh on the female nurses.
Not that docs are sexist or treat females as sex objects. It's just hard to generalize.
Looks like I stirred the pot and started a genger discussion! Oh well something to talk about. I'm female. I don't really genger is that big of a deal to most "professions", but there's always a few.
I'm on my way in for day 3.. I think I'm going to like this.
We'll a have a fresh CABG coming in today, so I should get to "play" with a swan today.
MarkHammerschmidt
153 Posts
Sheri257
3,905 Posts
Originally posted by Geeg Male pts think of us as sex objects too. When I went into my male pts rm and introduced myself he said: "There are certainly some pretty nurses, here." So I said: " Luckily , the nurses here are very smart, also."
Good one! :roll