Fired. Will I ever work again?

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hi, i am new here. i am reaching out to my fellow nurses for help and to share a devastating experience i have been through since in november 2009. i need to talk and there doesn't seem to be anyone there. i am bending you guy’s ears here asking for help. actually, it helps just to write to you all about it. please forgive the length. i read the "comment policy" and have tired to obey it. i think when you hear my story, you will see, this is something i need to….get said.

i have been an rn for 29 years. i started working in hospitals in 1973 as an orderly. in 1982 at the age of 29 i became an rn. i was so proud. in all my nursing years i have loved my patients and never had a single mark on my record. my resume is full of awards and good ,sincere references through the years. i have been very committed to my patients and excellent service. i advanced in my career and planned to work at my last job for the next eight years then retire.

one day in november 2009, a co-worker, who had been my friend for 7 years began to just shut down towards me for no reason. i asked if there was anything wrong. "no" he said. i let it go a week and asked again. he said, “you can be a little needy”. i knew what he meant. i had heard that before. i should have said, “you are right. i do worry people with my insecurity in relationships sometimes, so i will just give you some space”. that would have stopped the tension. i know because i have done that very thing and it is the best way to handle that situation. but i did not do that. instead i felt he was being a jerk. i let it go for another week, a week of him not answering my questions, of grunts and mumbles and no eye contact etc. i was getting really frustrated. so i asked him if we could do direct talk. he agreed. now knew that if you want to do direct talk and repair bad feelings, you must have a game plan going in. but i forgot that this time.(mistake). i was really feeling angry with my friend. so we went in an office for privacy (mistake). from the start he was not receptive, but he sat there. i said, “we really need to reduce the tension” .he agreed and the he said, “so whose fault do you think it is?” now here was my second chance. i could have defused it but i didn’t. instead i said, “yours”. boy, he got mad then and got up and he said, "what do you wanna do, meet after work and settle it like men”? i am pretty sure he was being facetious but i called his bluff. i said, "when? where?, today? in the park? after work?” i did not raise my voice, i was calm, i did not make threatening remarks. so then, he walked over to me and said, with restrained anger and venom, like a warning, "i will kick……” then he walked out. and to everyone in the office cubes he yelled, “he is threatening me. he wants to beat me up!”

next he was on his computer. i learned later he was emailing hr, and reporting me for threatening him and abusive behavior. also he was emailing my boss with the same story. she called me in just a minute and asked me if i asked my friend to:”meet me after work”. i said, “no, he asked me and all i did was agree.” well she suspended me right then. it felt to me like: so he complains first so they believe him i did not threaten him. i did not raise my voice. i admit, i did provoke him, but all i did was agree to his invitation. that is my side, i think is side was something really different (but i am not sure and i can say he lied. i hope he didn’t) . long story short, i was terminated. i wrote my side of the story, but it did not help. they just believed him and i was out in the cold.

i concede that i was wrong. i may have deserved to have been let go. but i wonder if this could have been handled differently by my friend. i think he just got real mad and went after me. i don’t hold a grudge, i take full responsibility for what i did.

hr told me after my last appeal, “you can work somewhere a year and get a letter from them and re-apply”. so i did that…and today i found out they would not honor that pledge. it is their right of course and i can see where they did what they thought was best for the hospital.

during this entire nightmare my boss of nine years believed me. but she could not stop hr. there were no witnesses.

my boss has written me a recommendation. she is giving me a good reference on phone evals. see nothing even remotely like this had ever happened. i was just not one to misbehave.

this has been a nightmare. i have like 20 applications out i had one call so far but it has not been long. i don’t know what hr is saying to prospective employers. the director said in an email to my boss that all they is: “the dates of employment” that may or may not be true i will not falsify an app so i have to “yes” i was let go if i am asked.. but isn’t it sad that someone can just complain and say you did something and your job, retirement, reputation in gone.

during this year that i worked a home care job for very little pay to get that letter, i herniated a disk and had surgery. so my doctor says i cant drive like that any more and that job is gone. but i did excellent for them and have a great letter.

then to top it off, all this stress was too much for my wife and she left me.i don’t want to be a cry baby. i will be ok. i will find a nursing job in this city, where i have to stay for my son. but you know it is so sad. i miss hospitals. it was my life. i gave my all in all to my patients. i loved them. i know how good a nurse i have been all these years. but right now i feel like a failure. i hope nothing like this happens to any of you. be careful.

i sum it up this way: 29 years of excellence and then a 3 minute conversation, and your life's work is over. no job, no wife, no pension, and all my saving are almost gone. look out wal-mart, got any openings?

i am sorry for writing such a long post but i needed to tell this story. i have to make the writing fun to read. kinda like a little short story. thank you if you read it. if you want, i would love to hear any feedback. good or bad. i want to be incouraged, but call me an idiot if you want. i sure feel like one. best regards.

Specializes in ICU,psych,med/surg,quality management, h.

December, Linc and Walk,

Thank you for these posts. Reading them made me feel so much better. Jack43

Specializes in ICU,psych,med/surg,quality management, h.

So, December, you know how feels to just need to fix things with people,,,the anxiety and you just cant stop thinking about it. Actually made some progress last year in that area. My boss was so...hard to please and critical with me and so sweet to everyone else (small office) I started worring like usual. Then I remembered what I had just gone through and I actually just forced to forget about and not even address any of it. I just did my job and never gave her the satisfaction of seeing me worry. It felt so good! I was very polite with her but no chit chat at all. It really cause after a while she tried to engage me. But remembered once she had told me early on, "I am not your friend". Why she said that I dont know. I never forgot that unnecessay remark. But after a while mI really did not care. After studingher for a while I figured her out. Not to sound mean here on the board, but I will say she was all about not having to work, avoiding work. She was so grumpy if she had to actually do something. well I have seen nurses like that before. I worked, really worked and I think she thought I made her look bad

Anyway, I will take that polite and cautious approach into my new job.

Specializes in ICU,psych,med/surg,quality management, h.

thanks Me...."keep on trucking" hey that takes me back to the 70s. :)

Specializes in pediatrics, public health.
I believe in Texas that all HR can say is your dates of employment and if you are rehireable..

Not according to the Texas Workforce Commission:

http://www.twc.state.tx.us/news/efte/job_references.html

It's time for people to stop believing this myth -- in Texas and elsewhere.

I have been a nurse for 30 years and my opinion is your friend was jealous of you for whatever reason and they needed to get rid of a nurse that was being paid very well and that was you so they can replace you with someone cheaper. I agree this is happening all the time. You will find another job and did you ever think the problem in not you but the system etc. People usually dont get fired for personality differences , they happen all the time. Dont be so hard on yourself. You will get another job and maybe this change of plan was meant to be to bring you to something better. Hug to you..

Specializes in ICU,psych,med/surg,quality management, h.
Specializes in Telemetry/Cardiac Floor.

I was just fired too. In my particular situation it seems that they didn't want to pay my maternity leave. I feel your pain.:crying2:

Specializes in Emergency.

I too am very sorry to hear about your situation. I hope things turn around. You have given years of service so hopefully karma will give you another chance.

If anything, you sharing your story should help other nurses by sheding some light on how to handle situations like this that may arise. We should all remember to think about our future when dealing with things that dont seem like a big deal at the time. Its sad to say it, but witnesses are necessary in conflict.

Thank you for sharing and good luck out there.

I was recently fired in November. My story goes like this: I was friends with a pt outside of work, took care of him and discharged him. When he was leaving we all wanted a picture together. His mom dug through his bag for 5 minutes to find his camera finally found it, and we took the picture (my mom was also in it, she worked as a US on the same unit). When he finished he said, make sure you tag me on facebook, and that is what we did. Poor judgement on my part, and also poor judgement being friends with some of the ppl I worked with. They brought it to management and my mom and I were both fired after an investigation. The pt was VERY upset, and wrote a letter on our behalf saying he would even testify in court. I got glowing recommendations from fellow staff members and I have had no problem getting a job. It really actually opened up a new door b/c I have started doing traveling nursing. I just prayed about it and everything has worked out. I know I am a wonderful nurse and that I take excellent care of my pts. One of our friends told us "we got sacked for loving ppl", which is true. You never know where there are ppl out there who are nice to your face, but will be jealous and backstab you in a minute. Keep your head up and I will be praying for you that everything works out. Good luck!

Specializes in Cardiac Cath Lab, LTC.

I have to agree with most of the posts here, you were set up to be fired. There is NO WAY you can get fired for 1 personal altercation that is a he said, he said kind of situation unless they were lookin' for a way to can you, prob due to your pay scale :( I've been done the same way.......it hurts to see people you thought were friends turn on you.

Don't even try to go back there......bad blood. You have experience, you'll get a good job, hang in there.

with your number of years experience u may want to try travel nursing. contact some travel nurse agencies, there are many good recruiters who will do the work for u in locating the right job to fit u. great way to start over and see the country. good luck.

After reading your story I felt compelled to respond. I commend you for acknowledging your faults in this ordeal. However, like many have already stated, it appears that they were out to get anyway for whatever reasons. Things happen in life for a reason and maybe it was time to close this door so other opportunities can be presented to you. My advice to you is to stay prayerful and have faith and I guarantee you things will work out in your favor. Be cautious of who you call your friends and disclose your personal information to. I have learned that everyone who you think are your friends are not and will try and get close to you and then sabotage you when you least expect it. When folks see people who have strong work ethics and are compassionate and excel at what they do, they will invest all their time and energy in trying to bring you down and hurt you. Please, in your next job keep your personal life separate from your professional life. The less people know about you the better off you are in the long run. Let people make assumptions about you and make a fool of themselves. This is just a slight setback for you, remain strong, keep your head held high, and keep moving forward. Constantly remind yourself of how good of a nurse you have been and the number of years of experience you have; present yourself as such during your interviews and you will be back into the swing of things before you know it. PS. I would not communicate with anyone from the previous job and do not let them know what you are planning to do. You already got a letter of reference from your former supervisor; I too will terminate communication with her as well. I wish you all the best!!!

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