Female nurses earn less than male nurses

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pay: the gender gap

a woman's work is never done. though you might not know it to look at her paycheck.

according to u.s. census bureau statistics, women make on average 25 percent less than men. this is, however, a marked improvement over 1970, when women made 41 percent less.

it varies by race

the pay gap differs by race, with the earnings of white women being just 72 percent of those of white men; black women making 82 percent as much as their male counterparts; and hispanic women earning 83 percent of what hispanic men earn. the rutgers school of management relations says this is primarily because white men still earn the most among all groups of workers.

it's wider among professionals

regardless of educational level, men out-earn women. for example, in 2000, college educated women earned just $5,000 more a year than male high school graduates.

while education has a major positive effect on the earnings of both sexes, it is particularly strong for men. interestingly, the wage gap is largest among the most highly educated groups.

a researcher exploring the pay and promotion gap among statisticians attributed this to women not wanting to put themselves forward as candidates for competition. she found that while most women did not apply for higher jobs because they believed they needed more time and preparation, ironically, those who did apply actually had more success than their male counterparts.

while causes of the gender pay gap are complex and include work/family choices, data on women's dramatically lower recognition in domains where their talents and achievements are equal to men's imply there is a tendency to undervalue a woman's work and contributions.

occupation matters

the gap appears in all occupations, however it is largest in the category of medicine and health management, where women earn just 63 percent of what men do. even in predominantly female medical fields like nursing (9 out of 10 rns are women), female nurses still earn just 88 of what male nurses make.jobs with the smallest gender pay gaps include legal assistants, where women earn 96 percent of what men do, as well as male-dominated occupations like engineering, where women earn 89 percent as much as men, and police and detective work, where women earn 83 percent as much as men.

according to labor department figures, women who choose non-traditional careers such as dentists (just 20 percent are women) or airline pilots or navigators (less than 4 percent are female), can expect to have lifetime earnings that are 150 percent higher than those of women who choose traditional careers.

pay vs. satisfaction

despite the pay gap, according to several studies, women are actually more satisfied at work!

careerbuilder.com's recent "pulse of the worker" survey found that despite receiving lower raises, fewer bonuses, and having lower expectations for being promoted, women were more likely than men to report that, overall, they are happy with their jobs.

who said a woman is never satisfied?

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women's issues in the workplace

the wage gap for working women is 74 cents to a man's dollar earned. the facts continue to show women are not earning all they could. some of the figures related to this gap include recent women college graduates earn nearly 16 percent less than men. the average woman loses approximately $420,000 over a lifetime due to unequal pay practices, resulting in fewer savings for retirement.

in 1996, the median weekly earnings for all men was $557, compared to $418 for all women, $362 for african american women, and $316 for hispanic women. poverty rates are higher at every age for women who live alone or with non-relatives than for their male counterparts. women of color face discrimination in earnings based on both race and gender, african american women earned 65.1 percent, while hispanic women earn only 56.6 percent of white men's wages on average.

in 1995, the u.s. bureau of labor statistics reported that male nurses were paid three percent more, or $1,144 more per year than female nurses. male secretaries, stenographers and typists earned 12 percent more, an annual $2,392 more than female secretaries.

the more educated a woman, the wider the wage gap. women with a high school diploma earn $9,000 less a year than their white male colleagues, and college educated african american women earn $2,558 less than white male high school graduates.finally about 60 percent of the improvement in the wage gap during the last 15 years can be attributed to the decline in men's real earnings.

source: bpw/usa's 101 facts on the status of working women

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Cherish, "serious" to me , also, is the original topic at hand.

That women are paid less for equal work, experience and education in this day and age is plain wrong and unjustifiable. That it is up for debate at all is not only serious, but puzzling to me.

Tweety, thank you for the respectful point of view. I hear what you are saying. I guess our choices sometimes change to reflect our changing lives. This would apply to any of us. I remember, When I was in college, I would have DIED if anyone told me I would give up my fulltime career to be home with two kids, let alone homeschooling them. I would have NEVER wanted to become "my mother". I was an INDEPENDENT WOMAN of post-women's lib age after all. You see, girls are making decisions in highschool that DO refect changing times around them, it is so true. But high school is a far cry from age 35 and post-life-experience.

So they (girls) often revise their decisions as they get older and start families. I think it's great women have the choices they do today. A girl today can aspire to be a pilot, soldier, EMT, professor, lawyer, whatever. It was not true in my Mom's time coming up in the early 60s. I just find it quite interesting that despite this, many of us are instead choosing to stay home and raise our kids. Or men are doing so. It's about choice, and I think that is a wonderful thing!

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Deb, I agree that in this day and age there are so many more freedoms. Freedom for a man to still be a man and stay at home with kids, freedom of a mom to put a career on hold and raise kids. Freedom of choice and opportunity for all!

You're right about women changing their tune after babies are born. Before I was nurse I was a clerk and there was a female executive who was a staunch feminist than quit and gave up big bucks to be with her child. Same thing happened to a coworker who would beat you senseless if you told her she would get married, have a child and be a SAHM, but that's exactly what she did over the course a one year. :)

I'm very disappointed to read that in nursing men make more than females. That men make more than females in any profression is wrong, but in nursing it's down right obscene.

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ON that we agree 100%. Its not only obscene but ironic when you consider nursing is overwhelmingly female. The reasons why are up for debate, yes, but as to whether it's right should NOT be.

I think it is great that women have more choices. I think we have reached a point in society where nobody with a straight face would argue that a man should make more than a women for the same job. NOBODY believes that in 2004. In their careers, women do have more choices than ever before.

......But, choices have consequences. If a women makes the choice to stay at home, she is making a choice that ultimately will bring her down the payscale in the future. There is nothing sexist about it. This is the reality even in a unionized hospital where the payscale is public and uniform to all and entirely based on seniority.

The reality is that many more women choose to stay at home than men. Maybe this is slowly changing, but overwhelmingly, it is the mothers who stay home with the kids if one of the parents chooses to stay home.

I know so many women who would love to stay home with their kids, including my wife, but feel trapped in a lifestyle that forces them to work. In the end, women who feel forced back to work will make a higher payrate, because they have more years on the job. But often they feel resentful of the time with their family that they had to give up. Pay rate is not the only important variable in life.

In many foreign countries it is expected that 1 parent will stay home with the children. Some foreign countries even pay a 1 year maternity leave.

I'm not sure where it was (think it was Holland) where people were paid for 3 years to stay home with no specification as to which parent it was. Sadly I think they were going to change it because of abuses.

It is too bad that our society doesn't place a priority on parents doing this. Sure everyone should be allowed to have choices and if they don't want to stay home okay but It's too bad that it's not an option for more.

I read an interesting article that tracked the cost of living and pay from WW2 on. It said that after the war many families had 2 incomes and as this become the norm our economy has adjusted to it so that in order to maintain the same standard of living as 1 income house house pre WW2 a family now needs to have 2 incomes because the job market has adjusted for a larger work force. makes allot of sense when you think about it.

My wife stayed home until my youngest was 5, now she is back in school and planning to start work. It was hard to survive on 1 income but I'm glad we did it.

As a side note: When we got married we decided that one of us would stay home to raise the kids. Originally I was going to be the one to stay home but it didn't end up that way. I have no regrets I did stay home with 4 children for about 6 months at one point in our marriage and I feel that I go the better end of the deal being the one to work lol.

On the subject of men staying home: I can see allot of the points made by both sides. There are people out there that would make fun of a stay at home dad but I agree with deb. They wouldn't make as much fun as they do of male nurses.

I think the bigger obstacle to this would be the pre-programming of the man himself. I have had friends and relatives that were stay at home dads for a time and they had a real hard time with it. Not that they didn't like being with their kids but they felt like they were getting a free ride and needed encouragement that they were making a contribution to the family.

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GREAT post dayray!

I am not giving an opinion, and really don't feel as passionate about the issue as you are have posted from your REPLYs to everyone. I think everyone else is really not stating more or less there OPINION but REALITY. You are stating your OPINION, which is great, but if you look at the WHOLE picture, you will see that in REALITY society is not willing comforting the stay at home dad. NOW my OPINION would be I don't care if your a stay at home, mom, dad, dog, or cat, but that you take care of your family and finances, and that you enjoy life. THAT is what matters (but thats my OPINION; Society sees it another way and that would be the Reality of it). LOL....

THIS WILL BE MY LAST POST SINCE I DON'T WANT A DEBATE BECAUSE IT REALLY ISN'T THAT SERIOUS. SERIOUS WOULD BE THAT CHIMPANZEE's ARE ABOUT TO BECOME EXTINCT IN 50 YRS AND SO ARE a TYPE OF KILLER WHALES IN ALASKA, and BELUGA WHALEs. OR THAT THE EARTH WAS ABOUT TO FLY IN THE SUN. :)

Cherish, thanks for seeing my point, and communicating it more effectively than I did. My opinon is, I don't care who stays at home and does what, but like you said, the reality is, Society has never and is a long way from accepting a man who wants nothing more than to be a housewife

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Cherish, thanks for seeing my point, and communicating it more effectively than I did. My opinon is, I don't care who stays at home and does what, but like you said, the reality is, Society has never and is a long way from accepting a man who wants nothing more than to be a housewife

I think you and Deb might have been talking about two different things. You were talking reality, she was talking how it should be, or even how it might be becoming.

I think society is more accepting of a man who chooses to be a stay at home dad. I still think it's rare to find someone whose only ambition is to be a stay at home dad, and it's also becoming increasingly rare for females to want only this for themselves. :)

Guys need to make more so we can afford to take you out on all those expensive dates!!:p

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I think the bigger obstacle to this would be the pre-programming of the man himself. I have had friends and relatives that were stay at home dads for a time and they had a real hard time with it. Not that they didn't like being with their kids but they felt like they were getting a free ride and needed encouragement that they were making a contribution to the family.

Agree, when I was growing up, granted I'm ancient, it was the males duty to be the provider. It was the ultimate failure not to be able to provide for your wife and kids. That's still a bit ingrained in our pysche don't you think?

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The "breadwinner" issue is, and should be, irrelevent to payscales. As the "catfoodwinner" of my family, I don't feel less entitled to my wages than my co-workers who are breeders. I'm still not convinced nursing discriminates against women, though. Society,yes--but even then, probably not to the extent perceived.

To the extent, if any, that women make wages less than their top priority, they have no reason to complain if others who do make wages their top--or at least higher--

priority make more money.

All I really mean to say is that these raw comparisons often seem to ignore confounds which might disprove, or at least mitigate, the conclusion, and we shouldn't be hasty to buy into them. Granted, I have my own agenda--I resent the implication that being a man gives me an unfair advantage, even in nursing. But I also believe it serves women poorly to accept the assumption that they have to be victims, because society often does hand you what you expect. If you walk into an interview expecting less than a man makes, you're well on the way to defeating yourself.

That said, where some of the anecdotes cited in this thread actually have occurred, I think it would be entirely appropriate to raise as much fuss as necessary to correct them. Organizing unions is one approach. Filing suits in Federal Court is another. In today's market, where nurses are in high demand, telling your employer to get stuffed is also a viable option--though admittedly not always an attractive one (I would think twice about commuting two hours a day to make a point with my local hospital).

Just for the record, I consider myself a Mary Wallstonecraft feminist--I like independant women who do for themselves and I think everyone should have an opportunity to do so. As noted by others, some women have to, but even if it's by choice, that's a perfectly resonable and valid choice. Nor did I mean to suggest that putting income lower on one's list of priorities was wrong or unwise. For me, it's a very sensible choice, and I'm sure it is for many others, too. And, of course, there are undoubtedly many women who are more career-driven than I'll ever be, and if that works for them, good for them.

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roflmao hodge!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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