Hi everyone. I have been doing a lot of research about the Excelsior program. I have a lot of prior medical experience, so I'm not too worried by the fact that there is not a lot of clinical time.
The thing is, I currently live in New York, but plan on moving to California in the next year or two, but see from the boards that CA does not "accept" Excelsior graduates. What does that mean?
I was told (though I may have been giving some wrong information), that once I passed the NYCLEX, I would be able to carry my "RN" with me wherever I go. Will I be able to work in California as an RN if I get my RN through Excelsior?
DYates, by your response I am seeing you still do not understand the point of what I am saying. You seem to see it as a I-made-it-by-the-deadline-how responsible-I-am thing when it has nothing to do with how we should all be impressed you made it by the deadline and those of us who didn't make it are jealous of people like you...DYates it has nothing to do with deadlines. That is so far off the target with what I'm talking about I don't even know how to respond.
Like Lizz said, making it under the deadline didn't seem to help a lot of people.
Sambu, I hope you decide to stay away from Excelsior. More states than California are hesitant to continue licensing Excelsior graduates and it's not because of sour grapes. On the other hand, I hope you can find a school that will not cause you to break the bank. I'm checking out ISU's program now. They have said I can go through their LPN to BSN program even with an RN license from Excelsior.
Should have done that in the first place, in retrospect, though some people can't seem to understand...oh well.
LPN,
It is not about "I-made-it-by-the-date-how-responsible-I-am"...it is about I knew the controvery, the pro's, the con's, the what-if's, and I weighed them so that later on down the line I wasn't crying EC screwed me! So it is about (to me)...I-knew-the-pro's-and-cons-of-the-program-before-enrolling-so-I-wasn't-sniffling-later! I-knew-about-the-fees,-the-wait-time,-states-not-accepting-the-degree-then-I-made-an-informed-choice-after-careful-consideration! I knew the fees, the states that accepted and didn't accept the degree. I read message posts and received opinions with varying thoughts-- That is really silly to think it "is responsible" just to sign up before a cut-date--more goes into a major decision than that. Lots of info was out there about the school way before you ever enrolled in 2004. I then weighed them against my life situation (you are not the only busy working mom with kids). You don't understand what I am saying obviously. The Cali thing is just part of the overall decision I made that prevented me from "feeling screwed" later by the school. Had you done good research and weighed this issue with much thought maybe you wouldn't have done what you now consider "a waste of money and time"--and that is just common sense. Before making a big ticket purchase--do your research!
It is not about "I-made-it-by-the-date-how-responsible-I-am"...it is about I knew the controvery, the pro's, the con's, the what-if's, and I weighed them so that later on down the line I wasn't crying EC screwed me!...snip
Here we go again. I can see this conversation with you is not going to change its course...you STILL don't get the point
Here we go again. I can see this conversation with you is not going to change its course...you STILL don't get the point
I give up.
Obviously, I surely don't understand. You say you are unhappy with the program because of the reputation of the college, the restrictions some states have for licenses, the anount of money spent, and the time waiting for EC to process and administer tests and ggraduate students. What I guess I don't understand is why you are complaining about it now--I enrolled before you and all of the above info was at your fingertips. The costs and fees, the restrictions, the reputation in varying opinions from the degree, the wait times. I see you have been on all nurses for sometime before going with Excelsior--this alone has a vast amount of info. I see you have even responded to posts where others have said EC is a problem and cali addressed it by removing there status--and this post was before you enrolled. You also made posts saying that you knew colorado and various other states may "lock out" EC grads and you wanted the scoop before enrolling. This post of yours here on these boards was dated in October of 2004. You were well aware of the CPNE wait time and all these restrictions--I read it iin your prior posts (before you enrolled--according to your own posts). So no, I don't understand what your problem is now--you had access to all this info before you enrolled. I think you realize now that it wasn't a good fit for "you"--but you alone are to blame. Had you done the research you would have seen all this info (and you did know to some extent because you have been posting here on these topics before you enrolled). I don't understand how people given info so much info on the same topic prior to doing something can come back later crying...suck up and take accountability--you are an adult I assume. Enlighten me--waht exactly is your point?
Well, DYates, not all of us live such a flawless and exemplory life as it seems you do.
I just can't for the life of me, see anywhere in my posts where I suggested it was anyone's fault I signed up with Excelsior.
I'm officially jumping ship on this thread, as we are doing nothing but :deadhorse
LOL ok...you are all over the place on these boards. Once defending Excelsior and then complaining about the very things you knew about before applying. I never said nor do i live a perfect life LPN, but as an adult making major life decisions I try to responsibly make informed decisions that I hold myself accountable for.
LOL ok...you are all over the place on these boards. Once defending Excelsior and then complaining about the very things you knew about before applying. I never said nor do i live a perfect life LPN, but as an adult making major life decisions I try to responsibly make informed decisions that I hold myself accountable for.
I find it interesting that Cali ( having such a problem with EC grads) did not just immediately state they were not accepting EC grads any longer but instead provided a cutoff date to EC grads. It would be interesting to hear from recent EC grads in Cali. regarding the bad reputation of EC and their job search/status. My husband works in a hospital in S.Cali and works with many EC grads. There is no SCARLET LETTER printed on their chest. I have not heard of any EC grads having a difficult time finding a job here. I did hear though that Kaiser will not hire EC grads.
Well, DYates, not all of us live such a flawless and exemplory life as it seems you do.
I just can't for the life of me, see anywhere in my posts where I suggested it was anyone's fault I signed up with Excelsior.
I'm officially jumping ship on this thread, as we are doing nothing but :deadhorse
You are not saying that it is anyones fault that you signed up with EC but you are saying that they are a diploma mill and that they should be shut down because you changed your plans. Jeez maybe they should add to their clearly stated statement about CA not accepting EC grads...something like ...noone else from any other state in the US need apply in case you change your mind one day about living in CA...how silly is that?
You are not saying that it is anyones fault that you signed up with EC but you are saying that they are a diploma mill and that they should be shut down because you changed your plans. Jeez maybe they should add to their clearly stated statement about CA not accepting EC grads...something like ...noone else from any other state in the US need apply in case you change your mind one day about living in CA...how silly is that?
I've heard a lot of people refer to them (or the publishers who get you through their program, at least) as diploma mills. This was coming from people who had nothing to do with California.
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LPN,
It is not about "I-made-it-by-the-date-how-responsible-I-am"...it is about I knew the controvery, the pro's, the con's, the what-if's, and I weighed them so that later on down the line I wasn't crying EC screwed me! So it is about (to me)...I-knew-the-pro's-and-cons-of-the-program-before-enrolling-so-I-wasn't-sniffling-later! I-knew-about-the-fees,-the-wait-time,-states-not-accepting-the-degree-then-I-made-an-informed-choice-after-careful-consideration! I knew the fees, the states that accepted and didn't accept the degree. I read message posts and received opinions with varying thoughts-- That is really silly to think it "is responsible" just to sign up before a cut-date--more goes into a major decision than that. Lots of info was out there about the school way before you ever enrolled in 2004. I then weighed them against my life situation (you are not the only busy working mom with kids). You don't understand what I am saying obviously. The Cali thing is just part of the overall decision I made that prevented me from "feeling screwed" later by the school. Had you done good research and weighed this issue with much thought maybe you wouldn't have done what you now consider "a waste of money and time"--and that is just common sense. Before making a big ticket purchase--do your research!