ETEA Bridging Program

belle_v2g, BSN, RN · Sep 18, 2013

Learning about google scholar is not educating overseas nurses to Australian standards of research and finding evidence based practise, do they not have an affiliation with a university nursing library!!!! this is why ANMAC are bringing in Graduate certificate bridging course from universities. or institutions with a university signed up,, so that they will be monitored to give graduate standard Bachelors education and research component to Australian standard of a nursing graduate.
Universities is where locals are educated, have no idea how a private tafe (profit driven) that can only provide up to a advanced diploma, can give a bridging course to nurses that have way above diploma in a Bachelors course and where the locals are educated at, NBV hang your heads.
To the poster, have you thought about reporting your experience/concerns to ANMAC. Have you checked out the conditions of their conditional credentialing, may take time, when AHPRA have to so closely check assessors and assessment during the course of each student.

Have you attended a bridging program ever? Because I have lots of friends who had their bridging program in different schools here in Australia, name it, IHNA, LA TROBE, ALPINE, CON, ETEA, etc. and we are all trying to compare what we've had.. And so far, it has all been the same. The difference is just that, we were already educated in a University from our homeland for 4 years, now (5 years) worked in big hospitals and special areas before we actually did the bridging program, which is, from my point of view, we are already nurses and are already knowledgeable about these things, and all we need is to get orientated with the setup here in oz. We are no longer grads and we can easily catch up with new things introduced to us.

belle_v2g, BSN, RN · Sep 18, 2013

It's been 3 weeks and I'm still waiting. Mailed them twice last week and was told they've been forwarded to AHPRA. Called AHPRA earlier, haven't received any under my name.
Friends from IHNA only had to wait 4-5 days. That's consistent. I've asked 5 people from Melbourne and Perth.
They paid roughly 12,000. I had to pay 17,500 AUD.
Go figure.

Yes, i am aware of that, because I have friends who did their course in IHNA. lots of them actually. I even applied in CON before (which is ACN now) and I think they are the cheapest, $10,000. My friends from La Trobe got their registrations after 2-3 days.

ceridwyn · Sep 18, 2013

"Have you attended a bridging program ever? Because I have lots of friends who had their bridging program in different schools here in Australia, name it, IHNA, LA TROBE, ALPINE, CON, ETEA, etc. and we are all trying to compare what we've had.. And so far, it has all been the same. The difference is just that, we were already educated in a University from our homeland for 4 years, now (5 years) worked in big hospitals and special area6s before we actually did the bridging program, which is, from my point of view, we are already nurses and are already knowledgeable about these things, and all we need is to get orientated with the setup here in oz. We are no longer grads and we can easily catch up with new things introduced to us."

I am only a RN of the country you are to be orientated to, with experience plus plus plus an undergraduate nursing degree and postgraduate and no, I have not completed a bridging course as I am already here with the AustrLian education .

You are supposed to be educated to AUSTRALIAN graduate standards therefore you should be orientated at this standard and learning about research so that you can provide evidence based practise at university standard is one of them and not educated at less than that. Even if your home education taught you this, many do not and Australian nursing is based heavily on this.

Google scholar is a classic example of where this instItutions research standards are and therefore are not orientating university educated overseas nurses to Australian nursing degree at university orientation standards.

belle_v2g, BSN, RN · Sep 18, 2013

"Have you attended a bridging program ever? Because I have lots of friends who had their bridging program in different schools here in Australia, name it, IHNA, LA TROBE, ALPINE, CON, ETEA, etc. and we are all trying to compare what we've had.. And so far, it has all been the same. The difference is just that, we were already educated in a University from our homeland for 4 years, now (5 years) worked in big hospitals and special area6s before we actually did the bridging program, which is, from my point of view, we are already nurses and are already knowledgeable about these things, and all we need is to get orientated with the setup here in oz. We are no longer grads and we can easily catch up with new things introduced to us."
I am only a RN of the country you are to be orientated to, with experience plus plus plus an undergraduate nursing degree and postgraduate and no, I have not completed a bridging course as I am already here with the AustrLian education .
You are supposed to be educated to AUSTRALIAN graduate standards therefore you should be orientated at this standard and learning about research so that you can provide evidence based practise at university standard is one of them and not educated at less than that. Even if your home education taught you this, many do not and Australian nursing is based heavily on this.
Google scholar is a classic example of where this instItutions research standards are and therefore are not orientating university educated overseas nurses to Australian nursing degree at university orientation standards.

I just mentioned in my previous post, that we do have a software where we actually do our researches and we don't rely on Google perse. Since you are an Australian RN / OZ Citizen, and haven't attended a bridging course, how well do you know that we (graduate of private orgs) are not taught with the same standards as bridging program from university did? Because, I am living with a bridging student of La Trobe University, and we always exchange ideas about our course, which I think, is no different with what has been offered to us on the first place. I have friends who did their course with other private institution and so far, are doing good now. I am currently working in a private hospital and sometimes works with LTU 3rd year nursing students and grad nurses and there are some things that we know that they do not know.. I'm not saying that I know everything.. It is just because we are all still learning. My point is, we are already nurses, experienced nurses, and pretty much aware that Australia has its own standards and we can easily cope and willing to learn and adjust with the new system and it would be really easy for coz us we love what we are doing and we worked really hard for this.. So please, don't ever under estimate our level of education.

ceridwyn · Sep 19, 2013

You totally missed my point and nowhere did I put down your undergraduate education nor experience, nor most overseas nurses abilities after attending BP private courses. The same as most Australian student nurses.

I support on behalf of nurses from Australia that ALL Registered nurse, division 1, education is done at university standard before registration, and not at a private tafe not at university education standard. If it was seen in the past that nurses from overseas required Australian orientation before registration, then it should have been made a university course such as Deakin and Latrobe. Those doing the course from UNISA have nothing but praise from their course and confidence in Australian nursing they receive for their money.

It is a put down of Australian nursing education in my opinion, if coming from overseas it is okay to learn our competencies from some private tafe, especially this one that has had some concern obviously from ANMAC and my post was to a former student that also is quite concerned as they report nothing new did they learn from their overseas degree, which means they have discovered nothing about nursing in Australia other than from their clinical placement.

This concern has been addressed by ANMAC and the whole 'bridging" idea is being addressed and will in the future has been touted that it will be graduate certificate after 12 weeks from a university or a institution affiliated with a university and that library and that will at least have students with having access to researchers and have full access and education to nursing databases and especially Australian and that researching is lifelong, and how to access it and do it in the future, not just some software computers? hopefully no more radically differences in fees, they should be uniform, course will be uniform, why can college for nursing provide it for 10,000, yet ETEA for 17,000:nono:

So in a nutshell I think these private Tafes, that do not have university affiliation are not doing the reputation that nurses are educated in higher education ie universities and amoung our other health professionals (all educated at university as well as their 'bridging'courses for overseas applicants) and the public of nurse compentencies value in Australia any favours.

belle_v2g, BSN, RN · Sep 20, 2013

You totally missed my point and nowhere did I put down your undergraduate education nor experience nor most overseas nurses abilities after attending BP private courses. The same as most Australian student nurses. I support on behalf of nurses from Australia that ALL Registered nurse, division 1, education is done at university standard before registration, and not at a private tafe not at university education standard. If it was seen in the past that nurses from overseas required Australian orientation before registration, then it should have been made a university course such as Deakin and Latrobe. Those doing the course from UNISA have nothing but praise from their course and confidence in Australian nursing they receive for their money. It is a put down of Australian nursing education in my opinion, if coming from overseas it is okay to learn our competencies from some private tafe, especially this one that has had some concern obviously from ANMAC and my post was to a former student that also is quite concerned as they report nothing new did they learn from their overseas degree, which means they have discovered nothing about nursing in Australia other than from their clinical placement. This concern has been addressed by ANMAC and the whole 'bridging" idea is being addressed and will in the future has been touted that it will be graduate certificate after 12 weeks from a university or a institution affiliated with a university and that library and that will at least have students with having access to researchers and have full access and education to nursing databases and especially Australian and that researching is lifelong, and how to access it and do it in the future, not just some software computers? hopefully no more radically differences in fees, they should be uniform, course will be uniform, why can college for nursing provide it for 10,000, yet ETEA for 17,000:nono: So in a nutshell I think these private Tafes, that do not have university affiliation are not doing the reputation that nurses are educated in higher education ie universities and amoung our other health professionals (all educated at university as well as their 'bridging'courses for overseas applicants) and the public of nurse compentencies value in Australia any favours.[/quote']
Well, if that's not what you meant, maybe you should go back to your previous posts and have a little read. :)

ceridwyn · Sep 20, 2013

Thank you. Now where is the ladder! :up:

belle_v2g, BSN, RN · Sep 21, 2013

I hope you do remember mentioning about a nurse who finished bridging in a private institution and doesn't even know how to report a medication error, etc etc.. And you are "generalizing" that incident to all international nurses who are from the bridging program in private orgs. Common, I even left a comment on your post and you just ignored it.

belle_v2g, BSN, RN · Sep 21, 2013

Nurses who browse this thread are looking for some good advices from ones experiences in Bridging Program. We ought for intellectual conversations and professional answers, not sarcasm. :)

Thanks!

ceridwyn · Sep 21, 2013

Posted in wrong forum!

belle_v2g, BSN, RN · Sep 21, 2013

I started this thread so i can post anything I want to. Thank you..

Silverdragon102, BSN · Sep 21, 2013

closing for time out.

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