license to breed - page 5

ER nurses can understand the frustrations of dealing with children placed in harms way by the adults who are supposed to be the caregivers. This doesn't tell the whole story. I read the original more... Read More

  1. by   Daywalker
    Quote from UKRNinUSA
    I would just like to say one more thing.

    I agree. Heck, it's illegal to own them at all where I live.
  2. by   Daywalker
    Quote from ChayaN
    Mentally ill is a broad term. Don't forget that many forms of mental illness are treatable/manageable these days. Are you implying that anyone with a psychiatric diagnosis shouldn't be allowed to be a parent?
    Hope not. I have two kids, and am being (successfully) treated for PPD.
  3. by   tiggerforhim
    Quote from rn/writer
    As parents, you do what works. We had a terminally ill foster baby (trisomy 13) who because of a severe cleft lip and palate and a tendency to regurg, needed to be kept somewhat upright. This was in the early days of infant car seats and we found one that did keep her in the correct position. She also had difficulty maintaining her temp so we sat the carseat on a heating pad set on low.

    I'm sure there are those that would be aghast at the arrangement today, but it worked for our baby and it worked for us.

    The biggest factor is that we had her best interests at heart and we kept trying different things till we found success.

    Other babies may do well in a car seat during those early months. That semi-fetal curling is a lot closer to what they were used to in utero than lying flat on a mattress.

    Again, parents who are looking for solutions and really are thinking about a position of comfort for their babies should not be compared with those who really don't have a clue.

    One hopes that the child in this horrendous story will have someone checking her status for a long time to come.
    Exactly. As a peds nurse, I have had parents of chronic severely mentally challenged kids put them to sleep in the car seat in the hospital because that was the safest thing to keep them from hurting themselves as they thrashed about at night - some of them never really even slept and it was a way to keep them safe while the parents got some sleep. After all, you've got to work and need to sleep, too. With the bigger kids we'd put the seat in a toddler bed (which has rails on the sides) so we could get to the kids and still keep them safe without worrying about them falling on the floor. We sort of went with the 'parents know what works best for their child' philosophy. For other babies with severe reflux in the hospital we'd put the bed at an angle and roll pads around the bottom so they wouldn't slide down and flex their neck and obstruct the airway as what happened in the study. For me the issue is not that the baby was in the carseat but that they had the PIT BULL PUPPY! Do you know how many kids I've taken care of for bite injuries from these killer dogs? AAAAGGGGHHH! And they couldn't wake up after the first toe was gnawed off????
    Last edit by tiggerforhim on Dec 28, '06
  4. by   wincha
    While she is waitng for her infant to be seen baby gets hungry and she starts to feed him yup you guessed it, corn chips. This time baby really choked she panics and again I happen to be walking by her room. She throws a baby at me that is completely silent, mouth is wind open no airmovement. I yell for help and flip that precious baby over my arm and whack him five times on the back. Help came, but thankfully the chip became dislodged with the fifth solid whack. I was so angry at that mother. I was shaking as I lectured her a second time regarding proper foods to feed her child. Duh![/quote]

    Did you get a social worker to talk to her the 2nd time? Touch base with her pediatrician?
  5. by   twotrees2
    Quote from adnstudent2007
    Ok, I'm sorry this is off topic but would someone please explain to me why a baby sleeping in a car seat at night is dangerous ? (I am not talking about a situation with the animals which was gross negligence on the part of the parents). Honestly, I have never before heard anyone say anything before negative about it (and I knew other parents who did it) and the pediatrician never said anything against it. I also remember thinking if I put her in her crib (on a different floor in my house) in the carseat, it would seam so much more dangerous in terms of being trapped in the rare case of something bad happening. On the floor she was just inches away from the ground (as opposed to between a car seat and crib bars and mattress). Plus just feet away from me to feed her a couple times a night. To me, it just seems safer. She is older now, but I would never want to do anything that would endanger my child. Other than this insident with the animals, has anyone heard of something bad happening to a baby from sleeping in a car seat? (Please forgive me for hijacking this thread!)

    i have never heard any info to the contrary and know many folks who do and have done it was well as myself

    whenever we went anywhere overnight anyone of my kids ( ranging from 8 - 24 yrs) has slept as babies in carseats. better than on a damp floor, and never did they or anyone i know kid ever get hurt.

    as for pets - there is no reason to not have pets either- all my kids have grown up around dogs and with dogs - yeah as a toddler one of my children was nipped ( the dog was defending herself when the kid cornered and started beating on her ) however the dog was banished to the basement and the son was disciplined after- never a problem after. one needs to be careful with animals and kids but not fearful.
  6. by   rph3664
    Quote from MissJoRN
    We once had the same toddler present to the ER twice in the same day for two different accidental ingestions of different medications. Assuming the story was true... how dumb are those parents? What's a kid doing playing in the bathroom unsupervised at 10:30 PM, especially after one scare?
    Are you sure it was accidental, or might it have been a case of Munchausen's by proxy?
  7. by   MissJoRN
    Quote from rph3664
    Are you sure it was accidental, or might it have been a case of Munchausen's by proxy?
    Don't think that didn't cross my mind, that's part of my reason for saying "assuming". The story is most memorable to me, the other details, not so much. I seem to remember this kid not being a frequent flyer. I'm also pretty sure parents did not stay, which makes MBP less likely. Our hospital also frequently had kids with bad cases of "Saturdayitis" where mom just needs a place to leave the kid so she can party, but actually having an ingested substance show up in bloodwork (I think one of the two was found) doesn't fit their usual pattern either.) Just a wacky situation, but no matter what the true story really is, it surely didn't involve Parent of The Year candidates.
  8. by   JRapha'sRN
    Last week in our ED we had a call for a patient transfer from a smaller hospital. Someone put Pine-Sol in a milk jug. Later that night someone filled the baby's bottle with the "milk" and fed them 6-8 oz of pine-sol!!!! I was gone by the time the baby arrived to the hospital, so I'm not sure how the baby did. Yup, there should be a test or something before you are allowed to have a child!