How do I handle poor standards of care at a new job?

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To make a long story short I had a job in an ER that was heaven. We had teamwork, strictly enforced policies that made things efficient, doctors that didn't mind you questioning them, liked to teach, and were willing to listen to your suggestions, educational standards that were not fun to do but kept us practicing with high standards. You hardly had to ask for help because people just didn't sit around.

I had to quit and move with my stupid husband.:( I was excited about my new full time job in a 22 bed ER in a community hospital that only has 154 beds to start with....it didn't take long for that to change.

1) Their computer system is from the dark ages and I'm constantly missing new orders. It is really making me mad and feel like I'm a poopy nurse. But as I've only been there 6 weeks I'm going to chalk that up to lack of use with the system.

2)Their pyxis is crazy unsafe. They have several drawers where the divider grids have purposely been put in wrong to accommodate drugs. Thus the cubbies on the outer edges of the grid have meds that move from one cubbie to another which is just a HUGE med error waiting to happen if you ask me. I have brought this concern up to my manager but I am not sure if anything will be done about it. You know because I'm suppose to read the label and scan the drug before I give it..... No **** Sherlock. Even so should we make it more likely for a screw up to happen?

3) Their doctors and nursing staff are very poor quality. The kind of people who do a half - *** job because they can. No one has an incentive to do what is best for the patient. One example would be a patient that I took care of. Female 45, epigastric pain radiating to the back, vomiting, sudden in onset. Patient does mention that she has gallstones but this pain seems much worse than any she has experience before. While I believe that the patient is probably having a gallbladder attack at my last job we had a policy that if a patient had 3 complaints that could be heart related we needed to do an EKG. Here I had at least 3...age, where the pain was located, vomiting. So I asked the nurse helping me to get the EKG machine for me and he goes, while rolling his eyes like I'm an idiot, "She's having a gallbladder attack she doesn't need an EKG." Personally I'm offended because I think it is poor nursing to ASSume anything, second is it really necessary to question my judgment with an attitude? You don't agree okay lets talk it out then error on the side of caution. I always say if I don't think something needs to be done but another nurse does then I should just go ahead and do it especially if it is just adding an extra layer of protection to my patient.

Second example: I work 3p to 3a. A psych patient is brought to the psych room for suicidal issues. She has major psych history and is very loud, verbally abusive, and aggressive. For the first 5 hours of my shift she is in the psych room with the door open and a sitter on the outside of the door. Good that is how it should be. When the patient gets loud they close the door and the sitter has to stand and look at the patient through the window in the door. Sucks that they don't have a stool, but still the right thing to do. Night shift comes on and the patient gets a new sitter. The pt's earlier meds are wearing off and she is becoming psychotic once more. The nurse caring for her is at lunch. In an effort not to disturb the nurse at lunch I go to the patient's room to see if I can calm the situation. However, the patient is now in a regular room with the sitter sitting inside the sliding glass door. I mention to the sitter as I go in that she should sit with the door open and her chair needed to be in the doorway or slightly outside the door. I also then mention this to the charge nurse. The patient's nurse is back from lunch hears me say this and goes, aggressively "No the sitter does not need to sit outside! The patient is suicidal, she needs to sit right next to the patient that way she can keep her from hurting herself!" I say "No, the door needs to stay open and she needs to be in the door way incase the patient becomes violent. She is a sitter and should not have to touch the patient at all...she is not medically trained. However even if she was trained she should not sit in the room with a potentially violent patient. Furthermore a patient who is possibly suicidal should not be in a room with equipment and other means to harm themselves!" I was a bit of a smart ass when I replied because this was not the first dum move on behalf of the staff that day. The patient's nurse goes "Well the doctor said we could move her in there because she kept getting loud and we had to keep shutting the door in the psych room and the sitter was tired of standing to look at her through the window!" Then the doctor, hearing all this goes "Why does it matter to you anyway she isn't your patient, you didn't really need to go in there." REALLY!!!!!!!! We moved the patient in to harms way because it was more convenient?!?!!! Oh, and by the way who really gives a poop about the sitter's safety either?

And as a side note NONE of the staff have very good interpersonal relation skills. Today alone I've had 4 families tell me that I was the best care giver they ever had there. None of the other nurses feel any obligation to update the patient on their labs, review the labs they are capable of with the patient, or to even go in the patients rooms in a timely manner when the call light is on. I would like to say it is because they are busy, but mostly it is because they are at the nursing station charting or chit chating.

I just don't know how I can stay here. I've brought my concerns up to my manager...I'm not sure yet how seriously she is taking them. I know it has only been 6 weeks, but those listed above were just episodes that happened tonight while I was at work. And those were the biggest of all the frustratingly bad care that I had to witness today. I didn't want to come into my job and be the snotty know-it-all but can you see why I'm being forced to be? I can't let it go....I just can't. I spend 2 or 3 trips to the bathroom today just crying out of frustration....something I haven't done since my first year of nursing. I'm so frustrated and edgy lately that I've started to think I might have a hormonal problem or something....I mean when I'm there I don't go into work dreading the day but it only takes an hour before I'm clenching my jaw, throwing down something in frustrating, or feeling on the verge of crying or seriously giving someone a tongue lashing.

Am I crazy? Had anyone else gone to a hospital with poorer standards than the last hospital they were at....did you cope or just move on?

Any advice is appreciated, thank you.

Specializes in MICU, SICU, CICU.

ER nursing has been reduced to a numbers game. Get them in and out. No time to assess.

Duskyjewel, my comment about my husband was suppose to be taken with a bit of joke to it. My husband is very aware of how unhappy I was to quit my job and move for him. Even more so now that he is laid off of the job we moved here for. I loved my previous job and coworkers and statistically speaking the odds of finding a new hospital with good enforced ethics AND workers is not high. In the 7 hospitals I've worked at 2 have been 'nursing heaven' because of good staffing ratios, caring coworkers, and hospital polices that actually are aimed at quality care. It will take quitting several positions to find this work environment again, my husband does not understand medicine or the medical field and doesn't entirely get why this situation is upsetting. His opinion is 'no one likes to go to work, just get it over with and get paid.' He can't see that this is more than just 'not liking work'.

Not that it is any of your business but I did not promise to love, honor, respect, or cherish my husband in our vows. We wrote our own and promised honesty with each other in hopes that honesty would keep us true to ourselves and allow us to grow with each other instead of apart. We have 20 year age difference between us, I have teenaged step-grandchildren, his second wife was a friend who died suddenly, and my family has a hard time with us because he is only 6 years younger than my parents. We dated for 4 years before we chose to get married. So yes, I feel that I am pretty capable at handeling conflict. And my husband has jokingly called me stupid before and I didn't 'go balistic'. It concerns me that you are so up tight about 'the correct way to be about your spouse'. Maybe you aren't married or your marriage isn't happy for you to assume that one sentence with an emoticon means I have poor interpersonal skills and am 'dogging' my husband.

Specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU.

Okay guys - her husband is not the topic here!

Multiple posts deleted for being off topic. Thanks.

Specializes in CCU, CVICU, Cath Lab, MICU, Endoscopy..

Kalipso.....my advice CYB all your patients don't worry about your coworkers and their care do the best for your patients and go home sleep comfortably. Otherwise you are going to drive yourself and your loved ones crazy. Sometimes we have to choose our battles....Hopefully things will look up soon for your family :-)

OP-- I'm not a nurse, just a patient who really admires nurses and the work they do. You sound like a great nurse, one I would want taking care of me. Never loose your passion. I hope you find a new job soon. Thanks for doing what you do. Always remember you are a nurse and you rock!!:)

Specializes in Med Surg, ICU, Infection, Home Health, and LTC.

Please see my other entry below. I am having brain far*s today.

Specializes in Med Surg, ICU, Infection, Home Health, and LTC.

Quote: Aug 21 by canoehead

Inside the door vrs outside the door, an argument could be made both ways. It's not something I'd get in a twist about. The discussion itself was not helpful for the patient to hear.

EKG would be done in some ERs I've worked, but not in others, especially with known gallbladder disease. Most hospitals have written standing orders for differing presentations. I suggest you check your policies, and push the issue if it says to do an EKG. But, if this is your own patient, and you feel strongly, an EKG never hurt anyone. When you comment on what others are doing it's wise to do it gently, and be ready to back it up with policies.

if you keep showing anger about substandard care, you will have a target on your back. Be silent, and give YOUR patients five star nursing. You can't change the whole unit, they will eat you alive if you try.

Canoehead, I like the balance that your comment brought into the thread. I could not find the words to express my sentiments but totally believed something was missing. I have seen so many new employee's come to a hospital and whether consciously or not, be so busy comparing their old job or prior place of work to the new one that they are unable to see anything of value. There is often a component of perception as well as actual judgement.

Fire Wolf, I don't entirely disagree with Canoehead's statement, but I do think some things are obviously wrong with my new environment. I am willing to practice different policies if people could a) find the policy and b) all come to a similr conclusion as to what the policy wants us to do. But more importantly I know I cannot handle a department that is inconsistent and where people don't actually work together. I realize that a vast majority of nurses go to work, give the best care they can in a crapy situation, and can go home and shake off the issues at work. But for myself, if the evironment is poor I will always dread my job and I won't be able to shake off the feeling that had things been more efficient then someone could have suffered less. The kind of environment I described in my first post has been what I've worked in most of my 6 years as a nurse and for most of my nursing career I thought I had made the worst mistake in my life by getting a degree in nursing. My last job was the first time I ever knew things didn't have to be ' just keep your head down, do your best, and hope you don't miss something important because you are so busy.' Now that I know it is possible for a hospital to have consistant, evidence based policies, with high efficiency and good, friendly conversation between staff and to patients I have even less tolerance toward these half assed measures.

Specializes in ED staff.

Standard of care is what any prudent RN in that given situation would do. What if the patient WAS having an MI? You knew she was having chest pain but didn't do an EKG? They could eat you alive in court! You know what needs to be done, just do it. Believe me, I've been in your shoes, know how you feel. Know this though, you're the prudent nurse, you're hte one who went a step further!

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