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So I am an American citizen who is going to marry a Philippine citizen next year. She wants to be a nurse in the US but does not know if she would be best to start classes in PH and finish in two years and then move over on a marriage visa or if its best to take the classes in the US. If she takes class in PH, then she will be in PH for an extra year vs just coming straight over on the marriage visa.

I can wait the extra year, but just need to know if she would be better off taking two years of classes in the US when she gets here somtime late in 2008 on the marriage visa. Will a two year degree from a PH school be enough to get a RN job in the US?

not all schools are lucky. here in manila, schools fight over the rle slots available. they usually end up with a 2:1 ratio. problem is i saw a lot of them spending time in conferences in the students' lounge. they just come out when there's a procedure to be done or the client needs something done.

Am I lucky? maybe, i felt that my nursing education was enough. We never had problems with our RLE slot.

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Since she has a choice and presumably can afford it then I would agree with everyone else and say that she should just go to a school in the US.

Most Filipinos would prefer going to a school abroad if they can afford to but unfortunately most cannot and if she is a 2nd courser here then finding a school would be limited as most so-called "prestigious" universities in the Philippines do not accept and do not have programs for 2nd coursers w/c explains why some 2nd coursers here are forced to go to "smaller" or less "well-known" schools. She is lucky that she has a choice; most do not, esp. 2nd coursers here who would prefer going to "bigger" schools but cannot.

Definitely study in the US instead.

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I wish that I could agree with you, you went to a very good program that does things the way that it should. Definitely, not the case with most. I would love it if I was proved wrong, but have too many facts and anectodal notes to know that I am correct.

There are now over 632,000 students in over 430 nursing programs in PI. There are nurses that have graduated and have never, ever inserted a foley catheter or NG tube. And or performed many other procedures. Also have documentation in my files as to nurses going into nursing offices and purchasing names of patients and their information, to complete their case documentation so that they can sit for the NLE exam.

And which program were you at? Sounds like one that I am very familair with, but many others do not follow that.

There was also a program on one of the smaller islands where the students had 55 credits per semester and never even completed any clinical time, it was just signed off for them that they were there. Your government needs to clean up things there and close down schools that have a horrible pass rate on the NLE exam.

Or what about clinical instructors that never had any work experiene before they started instructiing? This is happening all of the time there now.

And most importantly, when did you actually graduate?

I definitely agree with this one... ;)

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not all schools are lucky. here in manila, schools fight over the rle slots available. they usually end up with a 2:1 ratio. problem is i saw a lot of them spending time in conferences in the students' lounge. they just come out when there's a procedure to be done or the client needs something done.

i agree with you. i came from a small school. we didn't go to big hospitals except on the orthopedic hospital, san lazaro, national center for mental help, those two i can remember, otherwise, we were rotated in different smaller hospitals lying ins, and clinics, and drug rehab type of place. i wish we had exposures to places like.....makati med, asian, heart center, pgh, st. lukes...:lol2::D, but i guess my school is not that rich, and didn't have the right connection...just my wishful thinking.;) but i didn't have any regrets, because during downtime, we actually studied, we weren't allowed to hangout in the breakrooms, even if we wanted to, and my entire rle experience in the philippines is a mix of good and bad experiences, i remember coming to clinical duties and sitting there waiting in the hospital lobby thinking, when is this horrendous experience going to end? the reason why i said this is because i felt that the uniforms we have on was really uncomfortable, and i felt hot all the time...( does anyone agree? ), on the other hand, my school has its own hospital. we did have 2 patients per student during our clinicals. i don't remember having to share a patient with another students. to me? our clinical experience is not that bad.

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hi lorodz & g_l,

can you share the name(s) of your nursing school(s)?

i teach, and i see at least 12 students to a patient. other nursing schools (where my colleagues teach) have 12 to 15 students to a patient.

during my nursing rotations, i have seen students from other nursing schools, and the student:patient ratio is also high(if not higher).

your 1:2 or 1:1 is very good. i saw this ratio more than 10 years ago...in the university of the philippines college of nursing (upcn). but then, they only accepted 70 students to a batch (if i recall correctly).

my friends are asking about nursing schools with good student:patient ratios, and i could not name any. (upcn does not accept 2nd coursers.) i would appreciate it if you can give me the name of your nursing school.

upcn is good, but i would not want to take up nursing there right now, if you plan to work abroad. there are talks that they will restrict their graduates from working abroad, because their studies are subsidized by the filipino people. same issue with pamantasan ng lunsod ng maynila.

sir, for purposes of anonymity, i will only say that i am from a gov't university. but yes, the client:student ratio is kept low by the faculty. add to the fact that we are kept to a minimum number(retention policy is strict), we can maintain that quality. our professors are fighting tooth and nail just to gets us that. and looking at their paychecks, tough luck.

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I wish that I could agree with you, you went to a very good program that does things the way that it should. Definitely, not the case with most. I would love it if I was proved wrong, but have too many facts and anectodal notes to know that I am correct.

There are now over 632,000 students in over 430 nursing programs in PI. There are nurses that have graduated and have never, ever inserted a foley catheter or NG tube. And or performed many other procedures. Also have documentation in my files as to nurses going into nursing offices and purchasing names of patients and their information, to complete their case documentation so that they can sit for the NLE exam.

And which program were you at? Sounds like one that I am very familair with, but many others do not follow that.

There was also a program on one of the smaller islands where the students had 55 credits per semester and never even completed any clinical time, it was just signed off for them that they were there. Your government needs to clean up things there and close down schools that have a horrible pass rate on the NLE exam.

Or what about clinical instructors that never had any work experiene before they started instructiing? This is happening all of the time there now.

And most importantly, when did you actually graduate?

You definitely raised good points there Suzanne that I was saddened for I'm reminded of some of it again.

But honestly, just like the other post here, our school is also strict with the student-patient ratio. I guess, we're just on the better side of the road here because I can't remember sharing a patient with another student even in the DR where I always wish I have a groupmate to help me out (catching the baby really gives me the jitters).

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