Dwindling class members?

cdelacruz71 · Oct 29, 2005

We started the first semester with about 80-82 students. At last count we were down to 69. 2 dropped due to having a baby but will be back next semester. We had one drop from our clinical group after our first week in clinical....I guess it was too much for her.

Momto3andNurse2B · Oct 29, 2005

We started 8/22 with 42, and 12 passed the first class.

Race Mom, ASN, RN · Oct 30, 2005

Ouch!!!

CseMgr1, ASN, RN · Oct 30, 2005

My class started out with 120......46 graduated. It separated the women from the girls, that's for sure! :uhoh3:

LeesieBug · Oct 30, 2005

Surprisingly, we seem to have lost more somewhere along the way through second year than first.

We started with 140, lost just a few first year, added some LPN to BSN students during junior year, which took our numbers back up to 140. This year I noticed that next (final) semester there are only 100 slots open to register for our classes, so apparently quite a few got stuck in the junior year.

Not TOO bad I don't think....most of the people I know that dropped at the beginning did so because they just didn't think nursing was going to be their thing. Junior year there was a lot of flunking classes going around.

klone, MSN, RN · Oct 30, 2005

We lose a handful and gain a handful every semester. At the beginning of this semester we were at the same net amount as when we all started a year ago (although some faces are different - we especially gained a lot of LPN/RN bridge students - probably about five). However, I know of at least two people who have dropped out in the past month, and I expect we will lose a few more at the end of third semester with grades. Last spring we heard a rumor that the 4th semester students were having a hard time - about 5 had dropped prior to the final (because it would have been mathematically impossible to pass the course) and another half dozen were on academic probation going into the final exam.

Our class is approximately 50.

EmilyCCRN · Oct 31, 2005

We started with 40 and we're currently down to 30 students. We graduate in June, so hopefully we won't lose any more people since we're so close to the end.

following_faith · Nov 1, 2005

Wow we started with 30 and are down to 28 right now, I suspect more will be gone by next semester though.

That sounds a lot like my class. I think once we get into med-surg and pharm, we will lose at least 10. They are not going to be prepared because of all the stuff from this half. They spend most of their time complaining about how hard everything is and try to argue out of tests and bad grades, and they are not learning anything! I don't want to see anyone fail-but it's like they just don't take it seriously!

1Tulip · Nov 1, 2005

Years ago (before the flood) our class started with 45. About half graduated. There were 4 nsg. schools in that city and a 50% drop out rate was about average. (Often, it was people deciding, once they saw what the job was like, that they really didn't want to be nurses. They changed majors. So it wasn't like everyone failed.) However, we did have 100% pass the boards on their first try, so maybe the rigor of the program paid off.

luckylady68 · Nov 3, 2005

My class started Fall 2004 with 84 RN students. One year later...we're down to 43, and no guarantee that all 43 will make it until May 2006. Best of luck to all.

1Tulip · Nov 3, 2005

Whoa! That's a little too extreme. At some level, when you see a "mortality" rate that high, you have to look for some failures in the system and faculty.

Maybe they are not sufficiently discriminating in who they admit to their program. Are you in a private (i.e., tuition driven) college? In this circumstance , there may be pressure to accept people who canNOT make it because, frankly, they need the tuition dollars.

OR, the faculty is setting unrealistic standards for who they retain. (Why they would be misguided in this way, I can't imagine. I have seen students who are failed for vague reasons like... (s)he is not "professional" enough, whatever that means. Whenever I've seen this, it's because some faculty member has their head up their ___ and their fellow faculty members won't call them on it.)

OR the school is admitting the right kind of student, the curriculum and expectations are appropriate and the faculty just can't teach.

But something is wrong when a heavy majority of a beginning nursing class are flunked out before graduation.

How do graduates from you college do on their boards? Are there any other obvious problems in the school? What is faculty turnover like?

Something seems wrong here.

RNinJune2007, RN · Nov 3, 2005

Whoa! That's a little too extreme. At some level, when you see a "mortality" rate that high, you have to look for some failures in the system and faculty.
Maybe they are not sufficiently discriminating in who they admit to their program. Are you in a private (i.e., tuition driven) college? In this circumstance , there may be pressure to accept people who canNOT make it because, frankly, they need the tuition dollars.
OR, the faculty is setting unrealistic standards for who they retain. (Why they would be misguided in this way, I can't imagine. I have seen students who are failed for vague reasons like... (s)he is not "professional" enough, whatever that means. Whenever I've seen this, it's because some faculty member has their head up their ___ and their fellow faculty members won't call them on it.)
OR the school is admitting the right kind of student, the curriculum and expectations are appropriate and the faculty just can't teach.
But something is wrong when a heavy majority of a beginning nursing class are flunked out before graduation.
How do graduates from you college do on their boards? Are there any other obvious problems in the school? What is faculty turnover like?
Something seems wrong here.

I don't know who exactly you're asking, but a majority of the people on here lose most of their classmates by graduation, so maybe you're asking everyone?

I am only in 1000 (first semester of 5), but, I already know my school is AWESOME!!!! The teachers, upperclassmen, and all other faculty are so tight knit. At full capacity, the school takes on 120 students. Like I stated before in this thread, my school starts with about 45 in fundamentals. By the time graduation rolls around 18 months later, there are 10-15 students remaining.

Now, this is not because of teachers "kicking" them out, or anything like you make it sound. Many people take a leave of absence, or decide nursing is not for them (especially in the beginning... we have lost over 5 people from our original 45 already due to that.)

Our NCLEX pass rate is close to 100% (there is usually about one student who has to retake).

so, obviously in nursing school there are many more factors included than the teachers setting unrealistic standards. In our school C=RN, and if you can not maintain an 80 G.P.A you are gone at the end of the semester. It's understood, accepted and agreed with by the majority of the students. :)