Drug Seeker Antics and Dramas

ang75 · Jun 1, 2004

As always, Vicodin and Xanax. For those really over zealous, the choice is Demerol as they are ALWAYS allergic to everything else. The prob is so bad here that they put a drug&alcohol detox center in town that is always full. Ahhh, the joys of nursing.

By the way, don't you love the fake vomit attempts for the "migrainers"? Now, don't get me wrong. I know there really are people who do get true migraines, I am one of them. But Imitrex and some Benadryl always does just fine.

RainbowSkye · Jun 1, 2004

Drug seeking in the ER has really been troubling me lately, to the point that I'm considering leaving the ER (to where, I'm not sure). I've been an ER nurse for over twenty-five years, so you know things have gotten bad.

I work in a rural ER, and some days nearly 100% of the patients seen in our ER are drug seeking. To those pain management folks who are wondering how I know, please just trust that I never want someone to be in pain. But there is a difference between a drug seeker and a pain relief seeker (a little aside here, I do believe the drug seekers are seeking pain relief, but it's a pain of the soul or the psyche or sometimes just the pocketbook).

Anyhow, I don't want to pick that open sore and open up comments of how ER nurses love to make fun of their patients and enjoy seeing them suffer. I just want to say that endless interactions with the poor folks abusing drugs (or selling them, and sometimes both) is exhausting. And I just don't know how much longer I want to take it.

SWFlorida · Jun 1, 2004

We've even had pts who will try to make copies of scripts on their scanners and get them filled at all of the pharmacies in the county. Some will travel over several countys. Huge business in these drugs on the street.

z's playa · Jun 1, 2004

:chuckle :chuckle Here we go. I get migraines and Imitrex and Maxeran do wonders....however not all the time. Every 4 months or so I get one that won't go away. After 72 hours, status migrainous, and after about 6 Naprosyn, Tylenols, 2 Imitrex and the dark room full of ice....I haul a*** to the ER. Here I feel like I'm getting the "looks". Even armed with my letter from my PCP that states narcotics are sometimes needed, I follow up every 3 months and I'm on Propranolol daily. I'm very happy that you get relief every time you take your rescue meds, but not everyone does. Always. :crying2:

And believe me it is HELL going to the ER for that complaint. And I do dry heave as well since I'm always dry as a bone by the time I get there. 180/90, 37.3 Total pain

I get the dark room upon arrival, a bolus of saline, 30 Torodol, 10 Maxeran, 50 x 3 Demerol. (over a period of 6 hours mind you.)

Severe adverse reactions with Stemetil, DHE and Decadron.

Sucks.

veetach · Jun 1, 2004

Our patients drug of choice is Percocet. We even have those who take the script to the pharmacy and try to write a "1" in front of the amount so it reads "112" or "118". Like the pharmacists would buy that. :rolleyes:

z's playa · Jun 1, 2004

Our patients drug of choice is Percocet. We even have those who take the script to the pharmacy and try to write a "1" in front of the amount so it reads "112" or "118". Like the pharmacists would buy that.

Word. Like where are YOU going? Tibet? No pharmacies there? Our pharmacies always call the minute we get there. Who cares if its 3 am. :)

SWFlorida · Jun 1, 2004

I got a call from a pharmacy one night. A pt presented to the counter with a script for "a pound of mofine" (note spelling) Of course we didn't rx this..... The pharmacist laughed all the way till the cops showed up.

Stitchie · Jun 1, 2004

I got a call from a pharmacy one night. A pt presented to the counter with a script for "a pound of mofine" (note spelling) Of course we didn't rx this..... The pharmacist laughed all the way till the cops showed up.

Classic. Can you frame that one? It deserves it's own hall of fame...especially the spelling.

mariedoreen · Jun 1, 2004

:chuckle :chuckle Here we go. I get migraines and Imitrex and Maxeran do wonders....however not all the time. Every 4 months or so I get one that won't go away. After 72 hours, status migrainous, and after about 6 Naprosyn, Tylenols, 2 Imitrex and the dark room full of ice....I haul a*** to the ER. Here I feel like I'm getting the "looks". Even armed with my letter from my PCP that states narcotics are sometimes needed, I follow up every 3 months and I'm on Propranolol daily. I'm very happy that you get relief every time you take your rescue meds, but not everyone does. Always.
And believe me it is HELL going to the ER for that complaint. And I do dry heave as well since I'm always dry as a bone by the time I get there. 180/90, 37.3 Total pain
I get the dark room upon arrival, a bolus of saline, 30 Torodol, 10 Maxeran, 50 x 3 Demerol. (over a period of 6 hours mind you.)
Severe adverse reactions with Stemetil, DHE and Decadron.
Sucks.

Just from working in a pharmacy for several years I cannot tell you how many horror stories I have heard from migraine sufferers. People whose migraine are lasting days with no relief. Especially if they don't get started on their meds right away. Because mine are usually alleviated with sleep and Naproxen Sodium I've often doubted that they're true migraines, but the one thing I've learned is that there is no typical migraine sufferer. Yes, there are a lot of abusers of the system, but unfortunately there are also a lot of those who go unbelieved because of those abusers. I'm so sorry you have to go through that on top of your pain.

PA-C in Texas · Jun 1, 2004

I would just like to say a few words about the agonists/antagonists that are available. I have found that they are very effective drugs. If there are migraines that won't respond to the 5-HT agonists, ergotamines, toradol, and either Talwin, Nubain, or Stadol, it is time for a head CT.

Of course the addicts won't care for the Stadol NS that you prescribe, but perhaps that will dissuade them from using the ED as their supplier.

teeituptom, BSN, RN · Jun 1, 2004

Wrong , they seem to love the stadol nasal sprays

They can take hits in their nares while driving down the road

we get them begging for stadol NS

helps their rush hour commuteing, I guess

who cares about heavy traffuc when stoned on Stadol NS