Doulas: love them or hate them.

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I am trying to get a better understanding on why my co-workers hate doulas and I am pretty sure it comes down to control. There are 2 local hospitals with L&D and one welcomes doulas and mine hates doulas. The other hospital knows some doulas by name and greets them warmly. If a patient is sent for a section, the doula almost always accompanies the mother (along with the FOB or main support person) to the OR.

It's very different where I work. I hired a doula and sensed the hostility towards them at my hospital. My co-workers didn't know prior that I was going to have one there. I knew I had a strong possibility of a section and I wanted emotional support to avoid medication in hopes to avoid a c-section. I did end up with a section... because I work there my doula came to the OR with me. But, NEVER have I seen another doula go back there. My doula does not want to take patient delivering at my hospital anymore. She has been treated so poorly. I am now friends with a few doulas in the area and they all say the same thing about my hospital.

I took care of a woman with a doula a few months ago. I did not know this doula at all. I smiled at her, addressed her by name and when ambulating the mother, I accepted her assistance when she offered it. At one point I offered to get the mother and doula a water. She followed me out of the room and told me that no one at this hospital has even been this nice to her. I'm not surprised to hear her say this. The sad part is that I didn't give her special treatment, I just acknowledged her as a human being.

When I ask my fellow co-workers, they have said, "I just don't see the point of a doula/Why not just have your mother there?" (This is when I mention that studies have shown that doula support can increase your chances of an unmediated birth as well decrease your chances of c-section. I can give many more reasons for a doula vs. mother/sister/friend.) And they have told me that doulas give their patients medical advice and they don't like that. Or that doulas are pushy and always suggesting position changes or decreased monitoring.

One of my doula friend knows a charge nurse. We have all suggested having a "meet the doulas" day. This way the nurses can ask questions or even create boundaries on what is considered medical advise and maybe we can all work together without tension in the future. This ended up fizzling out. I know the only nurses who would come are the very few that like doulas. One of the other nurses confided in me that she was a doula prior to becoming an OB nurse, but she didn't want anyone else to know.

Thank you if you took the time to read all of this. I would love to hear some of your perspectives.

Specializes in Nurse Leader specializing in Labor & Delivery.

upSNUP, in the situations I mentioned, I KNOW it was the doula. I've worked with her several times, and one of my good friends, who is also a doula, "knows" her through her doula networking, and that's just how this doula is. She was someone who I would both dread to work with, and LOVE to work with, because I know it would be endlessly amusing to hear the things she would say.

Specializes in OB, Family Practice, Pediatrics.
As a former doula and current LDRP nurse I love doulas; most of the time. The ones I dont like are the ones that THINK they are advocating for the mother but are actually being pushy, interfering, and down right dangerous (like the doula that whispered in the patients ear "remember you have choices" when the RN was trying to get a c/s consent signed because the baby was having reoccurring late decals into the 60s and we were getting ready to take her down to a crash section)

A well trained, professional Doula would recognize the distress in the baby; and wouldn't do this. Even if she didn't study FHR monitoring in her training, Doulas are responsible for engaging in continuing education and evidence-based practices. There are many Doulas who support the mother's decisions including all allopathic interventions. There are other Doulas who are nature-based and may also be training to be Midwives; they also recognize recurring late decels. There are other people claiming to be Doulas, but who actually have had no training, which makes it bad for everyone. Unfortunately, Doula is not a protected title and training requirements can vary depending on the program; but in every program that I am aware of, they teach interventions and their implications. Like other posters have said, there are good and bad Doulas, good and bad Nurses and good and bad Doctors.

I know this is an old thread, but I had to react. I absolutely disagree with the statement that a good doula can recognize late decels. As a doula, I consider reading fetal monitoring completely out of scope. There is no situation in which it would be ok for me to interpret it or diagnose anything. Giving any sort of medical advice is also unprofessional. This is exactly what can give doulas a bad reputation.

My role is to make sure the parents feel heard and that they feel informed. If they look unsure about any intervention, or ask me what they should do, I ask them "Do you need more information/Is there anything you would like to ask Dr Soandso?" I would never tell them what to do, butt in, or be confrontational.

The best thing I can do for clients is to remind them that they can ask questions, that they can take the time to discuss things in non urgent situations, that they deserve to be heard and respected.

About the question above on partners and doulas, this is something that is discussed prenatally (ideally). Some partners want to be coached to be the primary support; others value doulas because they won't have to be as active and can rest. I've coached dads on comfort measures non-stop during a birth, becoming invisible to the mother myself, and I've been sole support while the partner stayed home with their older children. Whatever the desired level of engagement, a good doula helps them be the best partner that they can be.

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