DoLE issues certificates for successful nursing retakers

[pinoy_guy]

dole issues certificates for successful nursing retakers

[color=dimgray]first posted 18:02:00 05/06/2008

beginning wednesday, the department of labor and employment (dole) will issue certificates to nursing graduates who retook the scandal-tainted june 2006 licensure exams.

a total of 729 or 64 percent of the 1,131 who took the december 2007 dole-initiated voluntary retake of tests 3 and 5 passed the examination.

in a statement, labor secretary marianito roque said the schedule of release of individual certificates follows:

* may 7, 2008: abad -- bendo

* may 8, 2008: bergado -- dayawon

* may 9, 2008: de guzman -- ganay

* may 12, 2008: gantangco -- luna

* may 13, 2008: lusis -- paderes

* may 14, 2008: padilla -- saloria

* may 15, 2008: samia -- zolina

roque said the certificates will be released from 9 a.m. to 12 noon and 1:30 p.m. to 4:30 p.m. at the office of the secretary in intramuros, manila, upon the presentation of the examinee's professional regulation commission license.

he said that those who live outside metro manila and want to claim their certificates through the dole regional offices should register with the nearest regional.

a total of 402 exam retakers or 36 percent failed to meet the passing grade of at least 75 percent in both tests 3 and 5.

roque, however, clarified that the results of the voluntary retake examination will not affect their status as licensed nurses. those who failed will simply not qualify for us visascreen certificate issued by the united states' commission on graduates of foreign nursing schools (cgfns).

those who failed will simply not qualify for the visascreen...a kiss of death for that nurse's dream of working in the us.

kinda callous to me.

maybe these people should be given another chance?

for more details and complete list of the successful examinees, visit the dole website. http://www.dole.gov.ph

[suzanne4, RN]

They were able to waive that exam and complete an entire exam, and that is what was recommended here as well to do. Anytime that you are just retaking two sections, then your score has to be higher to be able to pass both, but when taking the entire exam, having issues with one section will usually come out equal in the end.

At this point, the other 36% would have to forfeit their license that they possess and rewrite the entire exam if it is still an option for them. Think that I heard something that it was no longer a possibility. But that was the nurse's choice as to what to do.

[lawrence01]

Yep, quite a number already asked the BON permission to now waive the license and re-take the whole exam but the BON has not made any final decisions yet.

If they waived their license and took the whole exam from the start then even if they fail it, they can re-take it as much as they can but since they only did the partial re-test then they were bound by the special agreement that it is a one-time occurrence only.

[lawrence01]

The link below shows a thread where a few posted about them inquiring to the BON about being able to waive the license and re-taking the whole exam even after failing the re-take of test 3 and 5.

Seems that the BON is aware of the possible legalities of them permitting such thing that is why they couldn't commit to anything. There was a special agreement that went along with the special re-take of test 3 and 5 and this is what makes things iffy. Those who did not do the special re-take and instead took the whole exam again from the start is not bound by such agreement so if they fail it, then they can theoretically take it again and again per Phil Law.

And come to think of it, having an agreement that you can only take the special re-take once and agreeing to it and then permitting them to later on waive the license and re-take the whole exam if they fail is self-defeating and renders that special agreement and the whole exercise moot. At best, if they will be permitted to waive and retake the whole exam again, CGFNS should be part of the decision making process or this will make CGFNS feel that they are being taken for a ride.

*See: https://allnurses.com/forums/f235/june06-license-waiver-248031-3.html

[pinoy_guy]

having an agreement that you can only take the special re-take once and agreeing to it and then permitting them to later on waive the license and re-take the whole exam if they fail is self-defeating and renders that special agreement and the whole exercise moot.

ouch.

you're correct.

i remember when this thing started--and some people here suggested to just waive the entire thing and retake the december 2006 nle, so the nurse grads can move on with their lives.

(i think only 3 people did this.)

the ones who suggested this route were verbally abused in this and other websites.

turned out the "whole retake stand" was right after all.

just how right will be evident in a couple of years--if these tests 3 and 5 retakers can actually get jobs in the us.

there are literally tens of thousands of nurses to choose from.

a lesson to learn from--the shortcut might be the easier path, but might be a pyrrhic victory, if you cannot use your license to your advantage.

i wonder where these tests 3 and 5 flunkers will go to now.

a waste of time and money.

what hurts more is if they work in philippine hospitals, they will probably work as "volunteers," or have to pay for the privilege of working.

[lawrence01]

Bumping this thread...

Are there any updates on whether PRC has agreed to have a retake for those who failed the special partial re-take (test 3 and 5 only) ??

[bigtoolforyou]

actually, 3 of my friends were able to waive their license (they flunk the special retake exams last december 2007) and took the june 2008 exams and they passed...i don't know where did they find this rumor that you won't be able to waive their license and take the whole exam after you failed the special retake exam...well i guess that's there option of not taking the whole thing...

by the way, congratulations to those who passed the june 2008 NLE... :)

[oobie]

just wondering..

i know two individuals who took the june 2006 exam, passed but did not retake it. what will happen to them?

Nurse A passed the NLE with flying colors and was part of the Top 10 in that batch. But, she was out of the country for 2 years and was unable to retake...

What will happen to her license? I know it is honored here in the Philippines. But, what can she do legally to retake since she wasn't able to do it when DOLE offered a free one?

Nurse B also passed the NLE but she didn't surrender her license or did not do a retake. She is now a head nurse in her unit in the hospital.

I believe she can't enter the US because a Visa Screen cannot be issued to her.

Can she apply to another country to work such as Middle East or Canada or Australia?

Can she retake the NLE exam next year? Is it possible? How?

Thanks for your inputs.. Any clarifications this matter are welcome.

[oobie]

just wondering..

I know two persons who took the June NLE exam and both passed..

But..

Nurse A, took the exam and passed with flying colors being in the top 10. But soon thereafter, she went out of the country for two years. She wasn't able to retake when DOLE offered the free retake.

What will happen to her license? Can she retake?

Nurse B, also passed the exam. She took the retake and failed. She didn't surrender her license. Now, she is the unit head nurse in the hospital she is working. I believe she cannot enter the US since a Visa Screen can't be issued to her.

Can she apply to work in Middle East or maybe Canada, Australia or

New Zealand? Also, is she allowed to surrender her license if in case she wants to retake the exam and clear out the june 2006 stain?

Any clarifications are welcome!

I just want to help them.

[lawrence01]

For others who are new here, this is the thread where a member asked for a re-take after failing the re-take of the test 3 and 5 and allegedly was not accommodated by PRC: https://allnurses.com/forums/f235/june06-license-waiver-248031-3.html

[lawrence01]

just wondering..

I know two persons who took the June NLE exam and both passed..

But..

Nurse A, took the exam and passed with flying colors being in the top 10. But soon thereafter, she went out of the country for two years. She wasn't able to retake when DOLE offered the free retake.

What will happen to her license? Can she retake?

Nurse B, also passed the exam. She took the retake and failed. She didn't surrender her license. Now, she is the unit head nurse in the hospital she is working. I believe she cannot enter the US since a Visa Screen can't be issued to her.

Can she apply to work in Middle East or maybe Canada, Australia or

New Zealand? Also, is she allowed to surrender her license if in case she wants to retake the exam and clear out the june 2006 stain?

Any clarifications are welcome!

I just want to help them.

It would be best if they ask PRC themselves. Better get it straight from the Horse's mouth. Also, I would not bother too much on their situation as they seem not to be bothered by it.

As long as they have not re-taken anything then they cannot be issued a visa screen certificate that is necessary for the US. So, as far as the US is concern -> No.

Not sure about the other countries but some one posted that Australia is asking for the re-take as well and not accept those who passed the June 2006 exam. You can read it on the link I posted on my previous post.

[nefarious]

just wondering..

I know two persons who took the June NLE exam and both passed..

But..

Nurse A, took the exam and passed with flying colors being in the top 10. But soon thereafter, she went out of the country for two years. She wasn't able to retake when DOLE offered the free retake.

What will happen to her license? Can she retake?

Nurse B, also passed the exam. She took the retake and failed. She didn't surrender her license. Now, she is the unit head nurse in the hospital she is working. I believe she cannot enter the US since a Visa Screen can't be issued to her.

Can she apply to work in Middle East or maybe Canada, Australia or

New Zealand? Also, is she allowed to surrender her license if in case she wants to retake the exam and clear out the june 2006 stain?

Any clarifications are welcome!

I just want to help them.

well,i think nurse A won't be able to retake the tests 3 and 5 as offered by DoLE snce they only offered it for the june and dec '08 NLE.if she still wants to retake the exam then it would be the whole thin for it to be accepted in US. Nurse B, on the other hand, should have retook the exam (either 3and5 or whole) when she had the chance. if she's planning to work abroad, most countries are asking for a new board rating certificate without the june'06 results on it. a friend of mine chose not to take the exams again thinking that the issue will die down n the futureb and as she was planning to work n canada, she won't have any problems with the processng of her license. woe to her because they are also requiring it.