documenting with kinnser software?

hi ttc,

i used hchb in '06 as a field nurse and loved it also. i felt it kept you on track with the poc and triggered you to write orders when needed (nice feature when schedule is hectic). i'm sure hchb is even more improved now. kinnser is soooo user friendly for inputing notes for clinicians. any computer literate person can learn kinnser in an hour and can then be very easily assisted over the phone for questions. for people already familiar with homecare software, the training time is even less.

kinnser will not keep you on track with orders and following the plans of care. if i remember correctly, hchb would not let you go to the next step without completing a dr's order due to new med not recognized on the original mar or a new problem that's not on poc. hopefully your documentation is reviewed in a timely fashion so that the qa person is recognizing the need to update the poc, mar etc. the reviewer can "return" documentation with "yellow sticky notes" for you to clarify and re-submit.

kinnser is web-based, therefore accessible from any computer. you simply log on to www.kinnser.net, enter your approved u-name and p-word, then review your "hotbox". the hotbox contains your tasks (assignments). if your manager gets busy and forgets to drop in a task, it's like being at a home and not having a progress note. i make sure i keep my clinicians on the phone until i drop the needed tasks in their hotboxes because i get busy. i also check my k-mail at home in the evenings and sporadically on the weekend to see if someone needs anything plus all staff have my cell number. our patients' signatures are collected on a running log that staff is required to fax/mail/drop off weekly. i remember for hchb the patients could sign on the pda. you have the ability to read the visit notes from the other disciplines on the case.

from a manager's point of view, i'm happy that people can confidently chart immediately and i get legible notes . kinnser has no flexibility for editing visit forms, there's no dietary form, qa'ing a chart is clumsy, reports could be better. your're stuck with what the give you. i'm trying to figure out a solution for the dietary note. kinnser said for me to get a note closest to what i want charted by the dietician and use that. for 1600/mo tech support, that's an unacceptible answer.

charting will be the least of your worries. best of luck to you!

Thanks so much carwin! Your tips put my worries to rest!

Kinnser is very user friendly. Be sure to get a tablet with a bluetooth keyboard, a camera and an integrated wireless connection so that you can do your POCs on site and send pictures of wounds. It works great. I have increased my productivity 10 fold. I am a nurse in Las Vegas and I have gone from 14 to 20 visits daily. Only thing that could make the softward better would be route planning included.

Kinnser is very user friendly. Be sure to get a tablet with a bluetooth keyboard, a camera and an integrated wireless connection so that you can do your POCs on site and send pictures of wounds. It works great. I have increased my productivity 10 fold. I am a nurse in Las Vegas and I have gone from 14 to 20 visits daily. Only thing that could make the softward better would be route planning included.

When you do 20 visits a day, how much time do you spend with each patient and what is your mileage? At a minimum of 30 minutes per visit, that is 10 hours in visits alone??

Love it!!! So easy, even a caveman can do it.

Are any of these agencies in the Ft Worth TX area?

I still want to know how Katie does 20 visits in one day?!

I am here to get feedback re: kinnser then I saw Katie RN/BSN's 20 visits a day, NOW I want to know more on how she's doing it than kinnser.

I agree with all of you - how does she do 10 QUALITY visits per day?

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Years ago nurses in our area were doing 15 - 20 visits a day. The state put a stop to it. Now the max is 10. I can hardly walk or talk after 7. I call the 20 visits a day, hit and run visits. Kind of like, hi, sign here!!!

I work for a HHA in PA, and there's a nurse who routinely does 20 visits a day. She starts out early and finishes her day late, but all her patients love her and give her rave reviews and always ask for her when they get referred again, so I can see it's possible, because if the visits weren't quality, I'd think the patients would complain, no?