No Prior Existing Conditions but Dead Anyway

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http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/48007842.html

Who would think that a normally healthy woman would die so swiftly from influenza in June?

Could you ever have imagined such a thing? No wonder her family and friends are in shock.

So why did it happen?

Barbara Davis, 48, was healthy just a week ago. She had dinner with her mother Josephine last Friday night. But just hours after that dinner, Josephine got a phone call.

"My friend, he called me and told me Barbara was real sick. And I said, "Well, she wasn't sick when I left, so what's the matter?" Josephine Davis said.

Barbara told her mother that she was ok. But the next day, things got worse. She had trouble breathing, and she was shaking. She could barely walk into the hospital.

"She tried to talk to people, but she just couldn't talk," Josephine Davis said.

Doctors treated her for two days, but they couldn't save her. They believe she died from swine flu.

"They've never seen nothing like that, what she had. That infection just went through her body, attacking her kidney, her lungs, her liver. Everything," said Josephine Davis.

The Milwaukee Health Department confirmed on Friday a Milwaukee adult with no underlying medical conditions died from swine flu, though they haven't confirmed Barbara Davis was that victim.

Barbara's family knows all too well how serious swine flu can be.

"Everybody is just in a shock. The people that I talked to today, they are frightened. Because it happened all of a sudden," Josephine Davis said.

More than 1,800 people have caught swine flu in Milwaukee alone. The city's Health Department is stressing that if you are mildly ill with flu symptoms, you should call your doctor. If your symptoms are serious or if you have mild symptoms that are getting worse, you should see a doctor right away.

http://www.wisn.com/health/19751526/detail.html

The Milwaukee County Medical Examiner said 48-year-old Barbara Davis died Thursday in the ICU after being diagnosed with the flu strain.

The health department said, unlike Milwaukee's first swine flu victim, Davis did not have any "underlying medical conditions" that would have put her at a greater risk for the disease.

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This post was written by Dr. Gratten Woodsen, MD commenting over at flutrackers on this unfortunate woman's case.

The decedent is described as having fulminate multi-organ failure that developed rapidly resulting in death 48 hours after onset and despite intensive medical therapy in an ICU including all the bells and whistles.

The attending physicians told the mother that they had never seen anything like this before and I believe them. So did she. No one has seen anything like this since 1918. In 1918 many doctors said the say thing after dealing with their first cases of Spanish Flu and for them too it was a great surprise at least until those that didn't die from the virus themselves had seen it so many times that it was no longer unique.

There are numerous descriptions from the 1918 pandemic that match the one above but no where else in medical history do we find anything remotely similar. This is why the doctors in Milwaukee were so shocked by what they saw.

How many other North American victims had similar pathology? Why have the autopsy and clinical findings from the deaths in Mexico, the US and Canada been suppressed?

I know from press reports that there have been other US deaths where multi-organ failure was present. Is this common among those who have died of Swine Flu or rare? Are the findings similar to those seen in 1918 or not?

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Nashville, Tennessee

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20091030/NEWS07/910300375/2066/NEWS03

Jamie Loveless, 27, was admitted to St. Petersburg General Hospital with pneumonia that doctors said probably developed from the H1N1 virus. The illness attacked her lungs and escalated rapidly.

At 2:30 p.m. Thursday, the mother from Middle Tennessee died, leaving behind her husband, Chris, her 9-month-old son, Gavin, and a lot of disbelief.

"This is the most serious thing I have ever seen," said Mary Loveless, Jamie's mother-in-law. "It's unbelievable to me how quickly it went from a minor cough and fever to completely overwhelming her body.

"It affected her liver, it affected her kidneys, it affected her lungs, and in the end it destroyed her heart."

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Littlestown, Pennsylvania

http://www.publicopiniononline.com/ci_13710810?source=most_viewed

Kyree, a student in Mrs. Erin Hahn's kindergarten class, died at Penn State Hershey Medical Center after a three-week

battle with swine flu, Shreve said. Kyree was taken to Gettysburg Hospital on Oct. 11 with a fever, was moved to Hershey

on the same day and tested for swine flu soon after, she said.

The boy went into respiratory arrest during his first night in the hospital and while he seemed to improve after several weeks of being connected to a heart-lung machine, he died on Saturday from pneumonia and hemorrhaging in his lungs, Shreve said. Kyree had no pre-existing health conditions, she said.

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Chances are that several other people in this family had it also. The question is WHY in a group of people with the same genetic makeup does one die when the others get better. I hope there will be a lot of study and someone can come up with an answer or answers to that question.

well said...if only. CIFDS specialists have been pondering this for decades, except that, instead of dying, some NEVER get better...:down:

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well said...if only. CIFDS specialists have been pondering this for decades, except that, instead of dying, some NEVER get better...:down:

There are many reasons that some member of a family will become ill/more ill than others exposed in like circumstances. There are some known factors that increase immunity, such as getting sufficient sleep with longer REM cycles, eating foods rich in antioxidants, drinking plenty of water, etc. However with other illnesses, such as breast cancer, it's the "luck of the draw". BRCA may affect one sister (me), and not the other (my sister).... from their mother who also had it. The tip of the iceberg regarding genetic predisposition to illness, has hardly appeared yet.

Not too many long years ago, people believed that those stricken with chronic/acute severe illness had it as retribution for some bad deed, and that belief lingers with some today, to the point that it could become a "self fulfilling prophesy". The attachment of head to body and ramifications of mental expectation of illness can be a large factor for those who often "catch" bugs. I'm certainly not saying that those who die of H1N1 flu have done it to themselves, especially very young children without those aberrations of thought.

I'll always remember the wonderful musical "Guys and Dolls" which came out in the '50s, in which a lament of a song called "A person can develop a cold" first revealed to the general public, that there was truth in the concept that stress brings URIs to people. The lyrics of part of it, etched indelibly on my mind, go, "You can feed her all day with the Vitamin A (Linus Pauling's work with Vit C hadn't been written then) and the bromo fizz, but the medicine never gets anywhere near where the trouble is. When she's getting a kind of a name for herself, and the name ain't his, a person can develop a cold." That was attributed to a boyfriend who wouldn't commit to a showgirl..... In those days, it was thought that marriage solved everything. ;)

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Springfield, Ohio

http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/springfield-news/controlling-spread-of-h1n1-is-goal-officials-say-385466.html

Clark County reported its first flu-related death this week when 26-year-old Tasha Robinson, of Springfield, who had no underlying medical conditions, died from complications on Oct. 27.

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Kershaw County, South Carolina

http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11448517

A 7th grade math teacher at Camden Middle School, Leon Kats, has died after his wife said tests came back positive for swine flu.

Jennifer Kats, the wife of 54-year-old Leon Kats, says Leon went to Moncrief Army Hospital at Fort Jackson last Wednesday, Oct. 28, because he wasn't feeling well. He was coughing and had a fever. She says doctors there diagnosed him with pneumonia, and he got rapidly worse.

On Friday, he went to Palmetto Health Richland. By Saturday morning, he was in intensive care and on a respirator.

Jennifer says her husband Leon passed away Wednesday night at 11pm at Palmetto Health Richland.

Jennifer Kats said as far as she knew, Leon had no underlying medical conditions that could have contributed to his death.

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Topeka, Kansas

http://www.kwch.com/Global/story.asp?S=11453543

A 34-year-old man from the Topeka metropolitan area was confirmed to have pandemic H1N1 on November 4. His death was reported to KDHE on November 2. The man had no underlying health conditions that placed him at greater risk for severe complications of influenza

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I sure wish the vaccine was more readily avaiable.

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Virginia Beach, Virginia

http://hamptonroads.com/2009/11/man-who-died-friday-beach-hospital-had-swine-flu-wife-says

Tamara Johnson said that her husband, who went by "Clint," came down with a fever on Oct. 27. He went home from his job as an auto technician at Bert's Alignment that day. Tamara said that he didn't improve and also started vomiting. She took him to the emergency room at Sentara Bayside Hospital on the evening of Oct. 29, when he was diagnosed with the flu.

By that time, she also was starting to show symptoms. Clint was dehydrated and received some intravenous medications. Neither of them had any underlying health conditions, she said.

By Sunday, Clint still had not improved, so Tamara took him back to the emergency room and he was admitted to the hospital. Last Monday he was put on a respirator, Tamara said, and by midweek doctors said tests indicated he had H1N1, which led to double pneumonia.

He died on Friday around noon.

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Boone County, Kentucky

http://www.kypost.com/news/local/story/Third-N-Ky-Swine-Flu-Death-Reported/4dIGLpBoUkCjn9HJqkjqmQ.cspx

The Northern Kentucky Health Department has confirmed another death associated with the swine flu H1N1 in a Boone County male in his 20s.

The individual did not have any underlying conditions prior to his death, according to the information provided to the Health Department.

(hat tip pfi/homebody)

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Berwick, Pennsylvania

http://www.wnep.com/wnep-jason-gensel-swine-flu-victim,0,4661342.story

Jason Gensel was 24 years old, in the prime of his life. He had a wife and two children, ages one and three.

On this day his family is in mourning. Officials at Geisinger Medical Center said Monday Gensel died of the swine flu.

"We were a young couple. He was mine. We had two kids. He was 24, never expected it/ I thought he would get over it and he was going to be fine. I never thought this was going to happen to me," said Tabatha Gensel. "It was from Halloween to the 4th. That's when I had to call 911 and he had to go to the I.C.U. It happened that fast. I want to say if you feel you have a misdiagnosis or you feel you need a second opinion and if you are sick and feel really scared, it's okay to be scared. Go to whoever to make you feel better."

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I sure wish the vaccine was more readily avaiable.

Me too, but I wonder if those young, healthy men would have availed themselves of it.........:crying2:

They waited for a few days before going for care......

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