Did you do all readings in FNP school?

guest769224 · Nov 20, 2017

You are not even an NP. I suggest you learn to show more respect to your superiors if you want to succeed.

And you have absolutely zero nursing experience. And I hope you aren't referring to yourself as an NP as "superior", not even for a second.

allnurses Guide · Nov 21, 2017

And you have absolutely zero nursing experience. And I hope you aren't referring to yourself as an NP as "superior", not even for a second.

I agree it was kind of a poor way to put it, but in his/her defense: superior adjective 1. higher in station, rank, degree, importance, etc.:

His/her prior RN experience doesn't really matter here.-

allnurses Guide · Nov 21, 2017

FNP students/grads...did you read all reading assignments? Do you think my method is sustainable for FNP school?
Any and all replies are greatly appreciated.

No, it's not.

guest769224 · Nov 21, 2017

I agree it was kind of a poor way to put it, but in his/her defense: superior adjective 1. higher in station, rank, degree, importance, etc.:
His/her prior RN experience doesn't really matter here.-

A nurse practitioner is not my superior. They cannot discipline an RN. They have no further relationship to the RN beyond providing patient care orders.

allnurses Guide · Nov 21, 2017

A nurse practitioner is not my superior. They cannot discipline an RN. They have no further relationship to the RN beyond providing patient care orders.

The OP is asked a question about graduate education not clinical chain of command. Do you have a Masters or a Doctorate?

Again I am not defending what was (in my opinion) not a respectful way of putting it but shiba does have a graduate degree and has gone through a graduate program and inthat way is the OPs superior in terms of advanced practice education/degree.

It seems like you carried some personal issues with shiba into this thread as you bring in information that it otherwise entirely unrelated to the OP.

guest769224 · Nov 21, 2017

The OP is asked a question about graduate education not clinical chain of command. Do you have a Masters or a Doctorate?
Again I am not defending what was (in my opinion) not a respectful way of putting it but shiba does have a graduate degree and has gone through a graduate program and inthat way is the OPs superior in terms of advanced practice education/degree.
It seems like you carried some personal issues with shiba into this thread as you bring in information that it otherwise entirely unrelated to the OP.

I was addressing the poster that I quoted. Not the OP.

Nurse practitioners are not my superior, nor the OP's. Despite your insistence that they are. Thank you for being a watchdog on how I conduct myself on this forum. Oddly enough, you're no longer a moderator so that won't be necessary.

allnurses Guide · Nov 21, 2017

Nurse practitioners are not my superior, nor the OP's. Despite your insistence that they are.

I'll let the ad hominem be.

Living with this kind of insecurity must be daunting! You are seriously arguing that holding a MSN/DNP is not superior to your degree in a discussion about graduate education! What has your personal experience been in graduate school?

guest769224 · Nov 21, 2017

I'll let the ad hominem be.
Living with this kind of insecurity must be daunting! You are seriously arguing that holding a MSN/DNP is not superior to your degree in a discussion about graduate education! What has your personal experience been in graduate school?

An APRN may possess more knowledge and education in their field of study. I will not ever refer to them as my superior as that denotes a misconception. They have no relationship to the RN beyond providing patient care orders. Those with a perceived God complex will garner no respect from me.

Living with the insecurity that an RN realizes NP's are not a superior must be daunting as well.

allnurses Guide · Nov 21, 2017

An APRN may possess more knowledge and education in their field of study. I will not ever refer to them as my superior as that denotes a misconception. They have no relationship to the RN beyond providing patient care orders. Those with a perceived God complex will garner no respect from me.
Living with the insecurity that an RN realizes NP's are not a superior must be daunting as well.

TBH I have zero insecurity about my job or my role. I mean that. None. This is possible because I don't speak or practice outside my education and experience and I treat every person I encounter with respect, from patients to CNA/MA to RN to providers. Any APN or MD or PA that is practicing without a relationship to RNs (or any other healthcare team member) is a poor provider. Any RN that is practicing without a relationship to providers or assistants is a poor nurse.

I've been there. I've seen novice providers barking "orders" at experienced RN without a shred of respect and it's wrong. I've seen experienced RN begrudge novice providers and jeapordize patient care as a result and it's wrong. We can all do better.

Novices in any role tend to overcompensate and act overly self-important and it's dangerous. I think we can see that playing out here on both sides.

In the end we all,need to function as a team regardless of role and when there is either a lack of respect for the other members role or a lack of understanding of the breadth of ones own role where problems happen.

guest769224 · Nov 21, 2017

TBH I have zero insecurity about my job or my role. I mean that. None.

Excellent. Neither do I. Even though you assumed so.

NEMurse95 · Nov 21, 2017

You are not even an NP. I suggest you learn to show more respect to your superiors if you want to succeed.

I find it best to give respect to those who give it. I'm not big on a hierarchy for respect.

JBMmom, MSN, NP · Nov 21, 2017

I did read most of the textbook readings in the my undergraduate program, mostly because I was concerned that there would be information that I would need that wasn't covered in lectures in order to provide safe care. I know many students didn't read much, some did fine, some did not. In my MSN program I readily admit that I did not do all the assigned readings, sometimes I didn't even buy the book, but those classes were more administrative in nature and I could find the information on-line from free resources (human resources management, informatics, healthcare management, etc), but anything that impacted my patient care knowledge base I read pretty closely.

As I move into my NP education, I intend to spend the time to learn as much as I can that will improve my ability to practice clinically. It's all about prioritizing, you might be fine with your current practice, as long as you feel you've prepared yourself for the highest level of clinical practice you can provide.