Did you hear about this at CSN??? RN program

jjewels49 · Sep 16, 2008

hi I heard if the students don't get their money back they are going to the press. What does everyone think of that???:wink2:

hdxdoode · Sep 16, 2008

i did hear about this, i also talked to a lady and she got kicked out for the same reason. i just applied for the spring of 09 program but from hearing all this, it scares me a little bit. if 115 people took the test and only 15 failed, so am sure the test overall was pretty easy, but its still wrong what they did.

NVhike · Sep 16, 2008

I heard about this story just this past summer when I was taking a summer class @ nevada state. This guy from my class told me that he was listening to a radio station one morning and heard about a caller aggravated and complaining about CSN (something about a math test and people failed). I dunno if it's the same story you just mentioned but it is HORRIBLE!!.... to have spent ALL that money and just have to drop out or forced out! ... this guy from my class is from California trying to get into nursing schools here, apparently he thought it would be EASIER to get in, into nursing schools here... he's obviously mistaken. I told him ---->>> I'm not a native nevadan, but when you take those pre-reqs, ask around, people are usually on their 2nd, 3rd or more attempts... just hoping to pass or have a better grade!!... the competition for nursing school is quite brutal here... these people have been around LONGER than you and I have been, you'll see.... I think you're better off in Cali.. . . I don't think he believed me, but I'm sure he'll find out soon enough.

mickeymouse1205 · Sep 17, 2008

Hdxdoode,

I think you misunderstood, on the 1st roun 90 people failed the test out of the 114 or 115. That is almost the whole class. On the second round only 15 people failed.. Meaning they had gotten 2 or more questions wrong. It is just obsurd.I am a nurse and I KNOW for a FACT that while math IS a part of your job, it is certainley not the majority of it. Even the Pharmacists have computers and calcualtors for this reason. KWIM. My whole point is not that CSN is a terrible school, it is that they should have had the common courtesy to let these students KNOW, if you fail your out, not pass it off like it was not a biggie. Out means forever for some. There is a girl included in this 15 people who had to withdraw last semester due to severe illness. Literally life or death, now because of this she is out for good. All this time, energy and MONEY for nothing. It is just enraging me, they should've refunded them at the least. C'mon they KNEW the test was coming they just didn't decide to throw it in for good measure. It doesn't affect me personally, but as a nurse I just feel it is another kick in the face, if that makes any sense. How can they sit there and wonder why people are leaving the field. Anyway off my vent LOL

Echo1112 · Sep 17, 2008

So reading this post, it makes me a little nervous. I dont particularly like Math, and this seems extremly harsh, almost unbelievable. It seems to me they need to reevaluate the tests or how the instructors are teaching it. Do the instructors go over the math needed to pass? Because you really only need to have math 100B to get into the program, how much harder are these tests?

mickeymouse1205 · Sep 17, 2008

The whole point is the instructors are not teaching it. Your right they all took 100b and passed as the pre-req requires. This was just an out of the blue thing,like "Oh by the way you will be having a math exam this week, we will review with you (which they did not) but you also have your regular (med-surg) exam, so don't worry about the math exam, study hard for the med-surg one, which they all did. They never once said you HAVE to pass this exam with a 97% or you will be withdrawn from the program.

AussieAndy · Sep 17, 2008

I'm surprised they weren't informed by whoever this instructor was. I'm not in the Nursing program yet but I know about these exams but I think they are ridiculous also. I didn't take 100B i took a statistics class so i'm worried about this though i've been told they offer a two week review class before the RN program begins and that you also cover it in your first semester in lab. If they don't then i'm screwed because the pre-reqs lists you can have a higher math class than 100B so at some point they would have to teach it or they should change that they ONLY accept 100B as the math class.

ohmeowzer RN, RN · Sep 17, 2008

i was a lpn that went trough the bridge program at CCSN and i took all these math tests and they tell you in the begining that you must pass all the math tests with a 97% , i passed them all the first time. these math tests are no surprise.. you are handed them the first day of clinical... and are told during orientation about these tests... you have 2 or 3 tries , and you are out... they are important because you have to know if the meds you are giving are a safe to give the patients.... the pharmacist can make a mistake in dosing .. and you could kill someone by giving the wrong dose. you will also get math in the NCLEX... it'e very important..

i graduated from their RN program and loved it and passed NCLEX the first time w/ 75 questions. all the LPN 's in my class passed and we all graduated together and it was awesome...

now the last semester you will be getting a math test once a week... and it was kinda fun because we all tried to get 100% on every test .. and we did ... also in peds it is very spectular and very critical you have to know your math.. gosh i loved it...

i am not a math guru but i practiced for hours because i wanted to not have to worry about passing ... we did have people who failed because of the math but they were allowed back in the next semester to try again.... i say practice it and do it over and over again... i dreamed it

believe me if i can do it so can you

RegNurstobe2008 · Sep 17, 2008

Oh ya that is true i am in 4th semester at CSN and 15 students were kicked out of program.

We had math review class before the beginning of semester.

They got 3 chances not two one was friday after the first test which was on Wed.

CSN has strict policy to clear the math test and everybody knew that and it is like this::::

if anybody will fail math test in 1st semester they are out of program so they need to reapply.

In 2nd, 3rd, and 4th semester you can just sign up back for next semester unless u didnt withdrawn before.

i figured out this semester had hardest math test, but instructors were nice so we got 3 chances otherwise u can get only 2 chances.

and after first math test instructors spent lots of time with students just to teach math. I think students went to instructors' offices there was no particular math class (after 1st test) so it was one to one appointmnet and that is nice.

i attended math review class and only 15 students showed up. :no:

AussieAndy · Sep 17, 2008

Thanks for sharing both of your experiences. I consider myself to be somewhat good at math so hopefully this is something i should try and not worry about.

RegNurstobe2008 · Sep 17, 2008

you dont have to worry. if you will get the math problems before test and i think as we did you will do that in lab for practice and ofcorse by yourself, u will pass. trust me we got practice problems before test, it was worth to practice them because test was exactly same as of them, i mean same kind of questions we got in test.

so bottom line your instructors will tell you in front what to do, and math test portion is in every class's syllabus so u will get it. .

Thanks for sharing both of your experiences. I consider myself to be somewhat good at math so hopefully this is something i should try and not worry about.