Demand for RP nurses overseas slowing down

rkm · Jul 8, 2008

the saturation point has been reached:

http://philstar.com/archives.php?aid=20080708159&type=2

demand for nurses abroad declining

by sheila crisostomo

wednesday, july 9, 2008

nursing experts yesterday said it is no longer the right time to enroll in nursing courses because of the declining demand for them in countries like the united states and the united kingdom.

according to dr. leah samaco-paquiz, president of the philippine nursing association (pna), the demand for filipino nurses had “plateaued” in the us since 2006 because of “visa retrogression” there.

“in the us, the quota for visas has been filled up resulting in delayed processing of visas, with current efforts focused on 2006 accepted applicants,” paquiz said in a press briefing.

the uk, on the other hand, has adopted a labor policy that gives priority to homegrown health workers.

“many licensed nurses are now underemployed or unemployed as a result of changes of policy in destination countries, the current situation of oversupply and quality problems, among others,” she added.

thread edited to conform to us copyright law.

suzanne4

suzanne4, RN · Jul 8, 2008

I highly recommend that everyone read these two articles in full and understand what is happening right now in the world in terms of nursing.

Also pay attention to the number of graduates and when you look at the number that are currently enrolled, that is also an eye opener showing that the majority that start are never going to finish, let alone pass their exams.

And with the retrogression in the US as well as the hiring freeze for RNs in most EU countries, it is time to take stock of the reasons why you are on in school. And what you plan to do with it since the US is not a viable answer at this time and will not be for years to come.

rookie_rn · Jul 10, 2008

well, i guess we all knew that this was coming. it was only a matter of time. :cry:

good luck to all the nurses and nursing students all over the world who are working hard and dreaming of a better life for themselves and their families. i celebrate and applaud your efforts! :yeah: :balloons:

not sure if i like the title of the thread, though. i think it is a bit condescending.

i mean, are filipino nurses the only ones trying to get into the us?

would a more appropriate title be --- "the end for foreign nurses has come" ?

it may just be me, but as a proud filipino, i feel offended.

god bless you all!

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"let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

suzanne4, RN · Jul 10, 2008

It is nothing for you to take personally, but the fact remains that your country is continuing to turn out nurses, but for the most part has no jobs for them. So many always assumed that they could immediately come to the US and that is no longer the case.

And sure, the retrogression affects everyone, but most in other countries are able to get jobs there and get experience as well. It is with those from your country, that have repeatedly spoken of coming to the US as soon as they graduate and just staying here, and that is no longer possible either.

But do not take it personally.

lawrence01 · Jul 11, 2008

**Moderator's note: Title of thread has been edited to match the title of the article of which it was taken from to avoid sensationalization.

Thank you for understanding and for your patience.

Proverbs 16:3 · Jul 11, 2008

Interesting, i thought Pennsylvania was the only one with nursing glut, then i realized boston, ny, nj, and DE were included. I didn't know it was global thing.

Thing is grads coming out of schools here in this country are not finding jobs. For those who'll reply to tell me they beg to differ, i'm not talking about the south, i'm talking about the so. jersey, philly and delaware areas.

I know some hospitals that hired foreign nurses aren't doing so anymore. I figured if they have so many nurses here, why would the spend money to bring foreign nurses in. This is gonna be an issue for all those who trained in their various countries hoping to come here and work. Welcome to the supply and demand curve of healthcare economics. I'm just watching to see how this equilibrium affects salaries. Already, sign-on bonuses and weekend differentials have vanished from some hospitals. I just got myself a contract before all the sign-on bonuses vanish forever.

Waiting to see what's next.

suzanne4, RN · Jul 11, 2008

It is not just the east coast either, there are hiring issues for new grads in many other areas as well, including the west coast. San Francisco and Seattle are at the top of that list as well. NYC as well for other cities on the east coast.

The push is on for more Americans to go into nursing and they can be trained in the same or less amount of time that it takes for a foreign nurse to get thru licensure and immigration process for the US and they do not have to deal with any of that.

This is what we have been saying here for some time, though many were quite upset with what I was posting, but now it is being written about in other countries and I am glad to see it.

Proverbs 16:3 · Jul 11, 2008

It is nothing for you to take personally, but the fact remains that your country is continuing to turn out nurses, but for the most part has no jobs for them. So many always assumed that they could immediately come to the US and that is no longer the case.
And sure, the retrogression affects everyone, but most in other countries are able to get jobs there and get experience as well. It is with those from your country, that have repeatedly spoken of coming to the US as soon as they graduate and just staying here, and that is no longer possible either.
But do not take it personally.

Agree.

what's the probability some of these people are being lied to or don't know about this retrogression thingamajig. I know in certain countries, people are lied to in order to get them to do certain things. I know someone who signed up for an exchange program to come to the country after being told they can go to college when they do the program. Now, we both know this isn't the case. Doing one year of high school in this country doesn't guarantee anyone an F-1 visa.

Likewise, what's the probability people are being told they can come to the US right after they finish nursing school in their countries?

just a rhetoric.

suzanne4, RN · Jul 11, 2008

Unfortunately, we are seeing more and more slimey recruiters coming out of the woodwork now and making promises that they cannot keep. They do not issue the visas, only the US government does. And they have slowed down considerably with that.