Decertification Petition Filed Against the California Nurses Association

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Nurses at Scripps Encinitas Hospital in San Diego County California have filed a petition to Decertify the California Nurses Association.

The California Nurses Association have made several unsuccessful attempts to strike at the hospital and have failed to garner enough support among staff nurses.

A copy of the petition is available from the National Labor Relations Board or download the petition now at http://www.stopunions.com

Specializes in Cardiac Critical Care, Trauma, Neuro..

Nurses attending a California Nurses Association pizza party promoted as a "meeting of unity" between Scripps Nurses and the CNA were greeted by Nurses billed as staff RN's at CNA affiliated hospital's. A little backround check finds that they are also on the CNA payroll. At least one of these "friends of nurses" collected a paycheck from the CNA in excess of $50,000.00.

See http://www.stopunions.com/scripps.htm for the details and check out the CNA LM2's also available on stopunions.com. Do you know someone on the CNA payroll as well?

How is that a conflict of interest? You can be a staff nurse and working for CNA and going to a party promoting unity between the hospital staff and CNA, I would expect CNA reps to be there. I think some people are just grasping for anything to be outraged about at this point.

How is that a conflict of interest? You can be a staff nurse and working for CNA and going to a party promoting unity between the hospital staff and CNA, I would expect CNA reps to be there. I think some people are just grasping for anything to be outraged about at this point.

The funny thing is that the flyer advertising this meeting does state that these are CNA reps and negotiators. It's not like they were concealing who they were. Hospitals pay people to fight union organization and negotiate union contracts, and CNA does the same thing for their efforts. So what?

Anti-union people are always complaining that CNA isn't run entirely by RN's. Well ... these people are RN's. So I guess they have to grasp at straws and try to find something else to complain about.

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Specializes in Cardiac Critical Care, Trauma, Neuro..
How is that a conflict of interest? You can be a staff nurse and working for CNA and going to a party promoting unity between the hospital staff and CNA, I would expect CNA reps to be there. I think some people are just grasping for anything to be outraged about at this point.

I know that many people may see it the same way as you do. I have been to these "meetings", people are introduced as "staff nurses" from "Metro Hospital". The dues are worth it they say! Well of course they are! Because they are on the payroll of the CNA they should be saying. No mention of that is ever made. $58,000? How is this person any different from the managers and administrators the union is so quick to bad mouth? If they are making this kind of money from their union job, how much bedside nursing are they doing? How detached from the reality of working the floors are they and how sympathetic can they be to us? The dues are worth it because the more dues they can collect from us the more they can collect from the union. Did you even look at the CNA and SEIU financials posted on http://www.stopunions.com? On the links page you can download unions payroll.On http://www.stopunions.com/scripps.htm you can see the what they are trying to pass off on the nurses there.

You can choose to turn a blind eye toward the half truths and sins of ommission if you choose.I choose to go in with both eyes open and to cover the backs of those going in with me.

No, I am not saying that management is better or worse. They have a business to run as well. It is such a great time to be a nurse, we do not have to settle. We are in demand and we call the shots.

How is this person any different from the managers and administrators the union is so quick to bad mouth? If they are making this kind of money from their union job, how much bedside nursing are they doing? How detached from the reality of working the floors are they and how sympathetic can they be to us?

First of all ... I don't think it's any different than being managers and administrators, and there's nothing wrong with that. But ... c'mon. Union organizing can be a full time job, just as managing can be a full time job. At least these people are still working as RN's. You can't knock them for that. Afterall, you guys are always complaining about the non-RN's who work for CNA. Well ... these people are, at least, RN's. Now you're saying that's not good enough either? Even if they're only working part time, they've got to be more sympathetic toward nurse issues than managers who never work at the bedside.

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The dues are worth it because the more dues they can collect from us the more they can collect from the union.

Managers get paid bonuses for fighting the union because it saves the hospital money in higher wages and benefits. But, of course, you're not complaining about that. I don't know if CNA reps get bonuses or not but people do get paid for their work no matter what side of the fence they're on. This is not unusual.

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So, if I say my unit is a great unit it's only because of my paycheck? It couldn't be because I really think my unit is great? If a doctor says I need surgery it's only because he wants to bill me for it? It couldn't be because I do really need surgery? Financial motives aren't always the only motive.

Honestly to me that complaint is silly. They are introduced as staff nurses because they ARE staff nurses. To anyone there, they are obviously also CNA reps or they wouldn't have billed the event as a meeting of unity between Scripps and CNA. Sometimes at conferences I will introduce myself as a NICU nurse. I'm also a L&D nurse. Am I being dishonest? Of course not.

Speaking of getting paid ...

Who pays for stopunions.com? And why isn't the domain listed in your name Sherwood?

The domain is registered under Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc. out of Bellevue, WA.

http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/whois/results.jhtml;jsessionid=RKEKGSXSTU1JACWMEAQSFEY?whoistoken=3&_requestid=447745

Why the secrecy with an out-of-state firm?

At least the CNA people stated who they were ... and their salaries are public information.

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Specializes in Cardiac Critical Care, Trauma, Neuro..
Speaking of getting paid ...

Who pays for stopunions.com? And why isn't the domain listed in your name Sherwood?

The domain is registered under Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc. out of Bellevue, WA.

http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/whois/results.jhtml;jsessionid=RKEKGSXSTU1JACWMEAQSFEY?whoistoken=3&_requestid=447745

Why the secrecy with an out-of-state firm?

At least the CNA people stated who they were ... and their salaries are public information.

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I am not exactly sure what you are looking for or how you are doing it. Do you know what you are doing?

I made a few of my more recent posts from a coffee house near my home, another from a friends house. I have no need to hide, my name is quite unique. If you really want to find me it would not be hard.

I am not exactly sure what you are looking for or how you are doing it. Do you know what you are doing?

I made a few of my more recent posts from a coffee house near my home, another from a friends house. I have no need to hide, my name is quite unique. If you really want to find me it would not be hard.

I'm not interested in "finding" you.

I am interested in who owns and finances stopunions.com. Especially since you refer to it frequently in this forum and, the website claims: "This site is not endorsed or supported by any hospital, hospital network, or any managerial staff. The information contained on this site is solely based on the opinions of its contributors."

Who are the contributors? And why is the domain registered with a "privacy protection service" in Washington state so that the domain owner remains anonymous? You always talk about CNA's publicly disclosed finances. Well ... how about some public disclosure on who owns stopunions.com and how the website, and all of it's accompanying campaign materials, are financed?

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I'm not interested in "finding" you.

I am interested in who owns and finances stopunions.com. Especially since you refer to it frequently in this forum and, the website claims: "This site is not endorsed or supported by any hospital, hospital network, or any managerial staff. The information contained on this site is solely based on the opinions of its contributors."

Who are the contributors? And why is the domain registered with a "privacy protection service" in Washington state so that the domain owner remains anonymous? You always talk about CNA's publicly disclosed finances. Well ... how about some public disclosure on who owns stopunions.com and how the website, and all of it's accompanying campaign materials, are financed?

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When I had questions about how to start a decertification petition I wrote stopunions and they wrote back in a couple of days. The information was helpful and they gave me links to other websites that were helpful as well.

OUr petition is almost done, people on vacation and all. This is exciting.

I am sure there are some problems with unions. However when someone can mention letting California be a "right to work" state......LOOK AT FLORIDA.

Staff positions top out at $25 per hour base rate at some of the largest hospitals in Central Florida. This does not include shift differential but who wants to live on $25 per hour? Nurses can ban together but they won't. They are too busy working 12 hour shifts, extra shifts and so forth to take the time.

Someone has to organize for them.

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