Effective Fall 2018, Sac State is changing their Selection Criteria for Admissions into the BSN program. I've created this thread for those folks that are planning on applying Fall 2018 to ask questions, share their thoughts, etc. I'm interested to know if the changes make it easier or harder to get accepted. I myself was planning on applying Fall 2018 but may decide to apply Spring 2018 if it's "easier" before the new changes are put into effect.
Hey. I'm not sure if you're referring to a specific post or just the forum in general, but I was the first to voice concerns about the new criteria after the stats were released so figured I'd chip in.
I think we're saying basically the same thing - the grade drop is unnecessary. I have absolutely no issue with the applicants, including yourself, who applied and benefitted from the criteria they put forth (I have 2 of the 5 optional criteria). Rock on, I have no doubt you'll be a killer nurse. We all come from different walks, with different experience and skills and there should be ample room for those things to be reflected when applying for a program. Totally with you.
My issue with what Sac State did this go round is that across the board in all three areas (GPA, TEAS, Optional Criteria), they DRAMATICALLY impaired the ability of applicants who only qualified for only one or two optional criteria to be competitive.
They did this in three ways. First, they allowed everyone to drop 2 grades. This means a person with a B and C or two C's can apply with a 4.0. That means the applicants who had a true 4.0 have that legitimate advantage wiped away completely in one fell swoop.
Second, they made the TEAS worth 40% less. Instead of there being a point differential of say 12 points between an 87% on the TEAS and a 93% (as in previous years criteria) there is now a 7 point differential. Again, at the expense of the person with the higher score.
Third, they added more optional criteria that only a particular segment of the population could benefit from. This optional criteria in-an-of itself is not a problem, but when paired with the other two changes, it forms almost a firewall against people who scored well with GPA and TEAS but were only eligible for one or two criteria.
So, for example, say a person with a true 4.0, with a 95 on the TEAS and 100 hours of clinical experience would, under this new criteria, be the 80th person selected under this new criteria. By across-the-board taking away any potential advantage that students who performed better in GPA and TEAS, Sac State essentially made success in the system heavily biased towards optional criteria. And if a candidate doesn't immediately qualify for either the economic/background/first generation criteria, then an otherwise top-tier candidate is almost disqualified immediately.
Basically, I just think they should do away with allowing students to drop classes. That's the crux of the issue for me.
This post is PERFECTION. Thank you ihateseagulls for clearing up the air for all of us. I too only qualify for 2 optional criterias, and it is disappointing to know that I scored in the 90's for the TEAS/got a near 4.0 GPA, yet I am not even in the top 80.
Anyways, didn't mean to hijack this thread and certainly didn't intend for any negativity to spread. Good luck to everyone who applied this semester and hope the point totals drop a bit for those of you on the borderline.
Anyways, didn't mean to hijack this thread and certainly didn't intend for any negativity to spread. Good luck to everyone who applied this semester and hope the point totals drop a bit for those of you on the borderline.
To clarify, it was not your comment that pushed me to comment in this forum. It was a comment about pass rates by Reincarnated that I found very rude.
I understand. I do not want any negativity in this forum. I just wish the best for everyone.
Do anyone of you know when the cut off usually drops?
Friday, April 20 after 5 P.M. is the official admission letter.
According to Teri's email, she said that they have evaluated the top 80 students, and the 80th student is at 80 points. So it's pretty much the "official" cut off, but keep in mind that the waitlist is ongoing until the start of Fall 2018. Thus, the cut off may stay the same or get lower depending on how many people deny their ITE, which is after May 1st!
Not to beat a dead horse here, but I do think it's important for Sac State to hear feedback from applicants about the new changes in criteria. If it's something you have any burning thoughts about one way or the other, I highly encourage you to write to Teri and let her know. I just wrote Teri an email with feedback about the 'dropping 2 courses' criteria asking them to reconsider this change as I think that will help iron out some of the inequities of the system. If you feel compelled, take 2 minutes and write Teri. [email protected]
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This post is PERFECTION. Thank you ihateseagulls for clearing up the air for all of us. I too only qualify for 2 optional criterias, and it is disappointing to know that I scored in the 90's for the TEAS/got a near 4.0 GPA, yet I am not even in the top 80.