COVID Vaccine: False sense of security or green light?

After perusing the posts I have seen much discussion about getting the COVID-19 vaccine/or not. This isn't one of those posts. I wanted to have a discussion with those who DID get the vaccine.  Nurses COVID Article

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My parents cried, they were so elated to finally get the vaccine. "We can finally not worry anymore and have the whole family over!" My Mom said this with such enthusiasm and it was the first time over the last 10 months she seemed carefree. I wanted to immediately correct her since she had this "I am untouchable now I got the vaccine" way of thinking but I will let her revel in it until the 2nd Vaccine. Instead, I politely reminded her full immunity comes a week or so after the 2nd shot. If she starts planning an Easter party, I may need to have a discussion sooner.

I thought to myself, how many people are thinking this way? Is this much anticipated, solution to our problems vaccine giving too many of us a false sense of security? (Of course, I'm exaggerating a little) After experiencing a similar emotion after my 2nd injection I sort of understand. I had a moment when I thought this changes everything, but does it really? As a nurse I already researched the vaccine, coming to the realization we don't know enough about the vaccine, and we can't to go back to regular life. I had to mourn the loss of my old life just like everyone else. Had to go thru the 5 stages of grief. The stages went something like this-

1-Denial

This isn't happening! Covid Must be like another flu. (Boy were we wrong)

2- Anger

Stay at Home! Can't tell me what to do...what, everything is closed...guess I will just stay home then.

3-Bargaining- Viva Las Vegas 

If I just wear my mask, stay far apart then my 2020 Vegas trip will be just like before...nope, not the same. Life just is not the same.

4-Depression

My kids never going back to school, I am going out of my mind stuck in this house! On the super depressing side, I see patients, coworkers and friends dying. None of us have ever seen so much death. No time to dwell on this, no time to process these pesky emotions, back to work. I Will schedule appt with a therapist after all this is over... I.e. who knows when.

5- Acceptance

Not sure I have reached this one yet. Is tolerating something the same as acceptance? If so then I wavier between this stage and the last three depending on the day.

We all have our own version of this I assume. Every one of us going through this loss together but separately, not to mention the loved ones lost. 

I feel encouraged by the vaccine, all the while black clouds of uncertainty loom overhead. I read things like this and feel again like we have a long road ahead.

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If I get a coronavirus vaccination, do I still have to wear a mask? Physical distance?

Yes. It may take time for everyone who wants a COVID-19 vaccination to get one. A vaccine that is 95% effective means that about 1 out of 20 people who get it may not have protection from getting the illness.

Also, while the vaccine may prevent you from getting sick, it is unknown at this time if you can still carry and transmit the virus to others. That is why, until more is understood about how well the vaccine works, continuing with precautions such as mask-wearing and physical distancing will be important.

Safety and Effectiveness of a COVID-19 Vaccine

What I mean is this, after I got the vaccine I felt relief knowing I am less likely to get COVID. Unfortunately, studies haven't been done yet to determine if I could still carry and transmit it. I think that's the part so many of us are forgetting, which is easy to do. Maybe they will do studies and find otherwise but until then I am considering every risk I take. Am I wearing a mask at home? Obviously not, but when my friends say to me we should go out now since I have the vaccine and my parents say come over, I think not yet. I am in the thick of this, working with COVID + patients every shift and the risk is still too great. I would rather not even think about it, any of it. Alas everywhere I turn these thoughts invade my mind, situations bring up these questions and others.

I want to get out there so badly. I was even less cautious for maybe 4 months, back when things slowed down. Part of me wants to go out with them but wear a mask and be outside? I try to rationalize that if others see their extended families, then so could I. That's when my logical side kicks in and for me, at this point it's worth waiting a little while before a family reunion. I would feel horrible if I unknowingly brought an uninvited "guest".

So, thanks for letting me say my piece (sometimes wondering off topic but will bring it full circle here?) Now that you know my inner struggle on this topic (sometimes hopeful, sometimes reality gets too real), I am wondering about others point of view who have been vaccinated, are you staying away for now or is the vaccine a green light for you to be around others? I know it's a personal choice but want to see other nurses' inner dialogue to see the reasons behind those choices. 

Thanks,

❤ Schweet

Specializes in Tele RN on the West Coast.
20 hours ago, turtlesRcool said:
20 hours ago, turtlesRcool said:

Thank you! The whole social distancing is kind of surreal. The last time I saw my mom was November 2019 when she died from cancer. The last time my husband saw his dad was December 2019 due to COVID precautions.  Obviously not the same because they can still talk on the phone and FaceTime, but it occurs to me that it's about the same length of time that we've been apart. FIL is in his early 80s, has a significant cardiac history, and has slowed waaaayyyy down recently. His death is not imminent, but the longer restrictions go on, the more I worry what if we've seen him for the last time and don't even know it.

On the other hand, being apart from so many friends and family members makes my mom's death seem a bit unreal. In a weird way, not seeing her is no less strange than not seeing everyone else.  Sometimes it's almost like I've just been too busy to call her, but I can imagine she's doing her thing at her house and we'll catch up later.  It's been such a strange year for grief.  Of course, it's been a strange year for a lot of other things, too.

I am so sorry to hear about your Mom. 

I wanted to thank you for the insight into your current feelings. I have often given condolences by saying, "I can't imagine what this must feel like for you." I find your description gives a slight glimpse of what you are feeling and I am sorry you have to go through it.

If you don't mind me asking what's your plan for this year currently? Will you two continue to Facetime with your FIL or do you plan to see him in person? Both of which have their pros/cons. I am struggling with this situation myself.

❤Schweet

Specializes in Psychiatric, in school for PMHNP..
6 hours ago, swirt1958 said:

May I ask where you got your info about the vaccine not preventing one from contracting covid? That is not accurate based on my sources.

 

Yes, I believe the purpose of the vaccines is to prevent Covid. Moderna 94% effective and Pfizer a little bit higher.

Specializes in School nursing.
On 2/8/2021 at 8:47 PM, PsychNurse24 said:

Yes, I believe the purpose of the vaccines is to prevent Covid. Moderna 94% effective and Pfizer a little bit higher.

Right now, we know they prevent severe COVID and suspect that they may prevent a person from getting COVID (at least original recipe COVID - variants may be different).

As more folks get vaccinated, Moderna and Pfizer are now getting further info on whether or not it actually fully prevents a person from getting COVID.

This is why I urge folks that do get vaccinated to sign up for V-safe so data can go to the CDC about safety of the vaccine and also some follow up. I got Moderna #1 on 1/16. Signed up for V-safe - they texted me a link to a questionnaire every day the first week mostly asking about side effects and 1x a week after that they also asked me if I had experienced COVID symptoms and/or tested positive or been diagnosed with COVID. They also sent me a reminder this week to make sure I had an appointment for shot #2 (I do) and to update my info use I receive it. 

I also get tested weekly at work - I'm a school nurse and I run our weekly testing program for in person students and staff. I just got test #4 since getting vaccine #1. All have been negative. But I also haven't changed any my behavior and mask up, hand wash, social distance (except when I can't in my job and PPE up as warranted). 

On 2/8/2021 at 7:18 PM, Schweet said:

I am so sorry to hear about your Mom. 

I wanted to thank you for the insight into your current feelings. I have often given condolences by saying, "I can't imagine what this must feel like for you." I find your description gives a slight glimpse of what you are feeling and I am sorry you have to go through it.

If you don't mind me asking what's your plan for this year currently? Will you two continue to Facetime with your FIL or do you plan to see him in person? Both of which have their pros/cons. I am struggling with this situation myself.

❤Schweet

Thank you. It is hard, but I keep reminding myself that the grief of loss is the price of love.  It only hurts so much because she was an amazing human being, and I think of her everyday. I am grateful for the pre-COVID timing of her death because my brother and I were each holding her hand when she passed, and the church was full at her service. My heart aches for those lost due to COVID because I know many of those families were unable to be with their loved ones in the final days and hours, and often do not even have the comfort of a funeral.  One of the saddest things is that even our basic mourning rituals have become a luxury in the pandemic. 

As for our plans, we will continue with FaceTime for now. Once FIL and MIL have had both doses of the vaccine, and have had a few weeks for the second dose to mature, DH will go down for a short visit.  He has not been vaccinated, but will wear a mask and get tested right before travel.  We will see where things are by the Summer for the whole family to go.  It's unlikely that there will be a vaccine available for children by that point, but if the case numbers are low enough, we will probably make the trip, and continue to exercise caution.  

Phone calls and FaceTime have been okay for adults, but they're really not that effective for kids.  With electronic communication, you sort of have to have something to talk about, and then focus on that conversation and nothing else.  But my 5-year-old flits here and there, and wants to show you her toys and ask you to draw with her, and her conversations arise organically from that. She keeps asking to FaceTime because she wants to see her grandparents, but then she gets silly and distracted after a few minutes when she runs out of things to say. We really need to spend time together to foster those relationships in a meaningful way.

This is an interesting article. I have had both of my vaccines, and I personally waited about 2-3 weeks before I loosened SOME of my precautions. For example, I had not been out to eat at a restaurant since March 2020, and had not been to any "stores" or "entertainment venues" since then as well. I got all my groceries curbside, and ordered doordash for most of my meals. I recently went out to eat at a restaurant between lunch and dinner rush, and I went to a casino for a couple hours to reward myself after a good test grade. I am starting to get a little more hesitant now with the new variants, but I think for right now I'm going to take it slow. I do always wear an kn95 or n95 when I go anywhere that could be busy just due to the different variants emerging now and uncertainty on vaccine efficacy against them. Overall, I feel a lot more safe and a lot less anxious about going in COVID rooms and going out in public than I did pre-vaccine!