Countdown to May COT...

[midinphx]

May COT is quickly approaching. I know of only 3 of us here who are in. Who else is going?

I still haven't commissioned, should be soon obviously.

I can't get on base to get all my uniforms, but I have a friend who can take me to do it. Does everyone have their stuff?

As I organize to close up my house for my renter, I am stressing about it getting moved before I leave for COT. I can't get to TMO before my orders.... kind of freaking out about that. I know I can have someone else do it for me, but it would have to be a friend, as I have no family here.

So many questions and lists in my head!

I'm out running to make sure I can keep up once I get there; it's a great stress killer.

monica

[carolinapooh, BSN, RN]

It's a Reservist ID card regardless.

It's not a casual use. It's the correct use. If you're not active, you're part of the IRR or the Select. The way the Reserves are set up is COMPLETELY confusing, as most non-Reservists will tell you.

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You're wrong.

Unbelievable

Please figure out a way to deal with that without disrespecting a huge component of the Air Force.

I now understand that you are COMPLETELY confused as well. Perhaps you could educate yourself rather than further spread innacurate information----simply because it's so confusing to you.

So I'll clarify.

If you're not RECALLED TO ACTIVE DUTY as a Reservist, you're either standby, ready, irr, or retired. These four categories can be and are recalled to active duty as needed. Standbys drill, the others generally do not. One of them has not been recalled since the first Gulf War and one hasn't been called up since I believe Vietnam. I do remember that there are about 75K members of the Standby reserve. And as a member of the IRR, I got a little reminder letter after 9/11 that I was still recallable, if you'll forgive the grammar.

(You're either actively serving at a desk, or you're inactive with the possibility of being recalled.)

And I can assure you I'm not disrespecting an entire sector of the Air Force. The setup IS confusing as evidenced by the lengthy reviews needed for even prior actives during the history/AF Structure lectures at COT. In attempting to simplify, I've created more confusion - both for myself and for others. Again I apologize.

[Miss Mab]

so who has a CAC card? No colors mind you--just the white?

[carolinapooh, BSN, RN]

Again - Reservists who are either entitled to Tricare, or those who require access to DOD systems. If you are a Reservist, and you fit neither of those categories, you don't get a CAC - you get a DD Fm 2R specific to your service.

Reservists on EAD orders get CACs. Reservists who are Reservists on the weekend but "civilians" the rest of the time occasionally have BOTH - we have a Reservist major who works in our BMT outpatient clinic who has both ID cards (although my understanding is they're getting away from that). Any Reservist who needs access to a DOD computer and/or is entitled to TRICARE gets a CAC.

All active duty members have CACs. Family members get the DD Fm 1173, the dependent ID card.

To further add to it, GS civilian employees also can have CACs if their job description requires that they have access to DOD computer systems. (We actually have a few civilian RNs who have retiree dependent ID cards and then have CACs for work. Talk about a big brother footprint.)

The whole CAC thing is great on paper, but I have no idea how they keep up with who's entitled to what for what and when.

[carolinapooh, BSN, RN]

Back to May COT, please.... :) And I give an apology for the hijack.

[Miss Mab]

LT---your language and understanding of reserve categories and duties are so mixed up I can't even think where to start. There are literally around 12 innaccuracies spread throughout your posts on the topic and I don't have the energy to go any further with it. Your obstinance is cringe-worthy.

Look, we KNOW it can be confusing---HINT: that's whay I butted in in the first place---but don't dig your heels in and insist you know best in an area that you obviously don't. What was the point? Learn to say "I don't know." Trust me, it's liberating. Unfortunately, now all we've done is further muddied the pond.

FTR, any particpating or "drilling" (weekend'er--as if)reservist has a regular plain old everyday CAC white card. All of them. Every one.....And no colors involved. No active order involved.

For starters......yes PLEASE carry on all

[carolinapooh, BSN, RN]

LT---your language and understanding of reserve categories and duties are so mixed up I can't even think where to start. There are literally around 12 innaccuracies spread throughout your posts on the topic and I don't have the energy to go any further with it. Your obstinance is cringe-worthy.

Look, we KNOW it can be confusing---HINT: that's whay I butted in in the first place---but don't dig your heels in and insist you know best in an area that you obviously don't. What was the point? Learn to say "I don't know." Trust me, it's liberating. Unfortunately, now all we've done is further muddied the pond.

FTR, any particpating or "drilling" (weekend'er--as if)reservist has a regular plain old everyday CAC white card. All of them. Every one.....And no colors involved. No active order involved.

For starters......yes PLEASE carry on all/QUOTE]

Actually I checked the categories on the Air Force Reserve Command website and the book they gave us in COT - that massive three inch plus three ring binder. So I guess that information is wrong as well. I don't know that Captain Marlowe would give out inaccurate information in his lectures (he was, BTW, AWESOME).

If you're referencing ARTs, ARGs, and IMAs, that's not how I'm looking at it. I'm looking at the broader categories as we were taught in COT, which is what everyone here is going to be taught.

I'm sorry, but I'm "digging my heels in" on the ID card issue - because I'm still seeing wayyyyy too many of them.....and have way too many sources that say otherwise, to include a couple of personnelists. And because I'm well aware I'm correct.

I can very well say I don't know when I don't know (and I'd say the people on this board "know" me well enough to know that) - but the ID card issue I know. Very well. And I know that not EVERY Reservist has a CAC because I know what the purpose of a CAC is. I would think when provided links proving my affirmation that not everyone gets a CAC one would be able to concede to their end of the misunderstanding.

I have no idea who you are or what your rank is, and I certainly mean no disrespect to you regardless, but the ID card as described here is accurate. I even provided documentation. If I don't know, I'll say so - or I'll look it up to check myself, which I did.

I'm not attempting to be obstinate. Ask a cop, ma'am - really. Pop into the MPF and ask about the different types of Reservist ID cards.

There's more than one type of Reservist that's subject to the AFRC.

And may I say that just because you're not understanding what I'm saying doesn't make what I'm saying untrue or inaccurate.

[Miss Mab]

how many times is your post gonna change LT?

Integrity first and all that.

[carolinapooh, BSN, RN]

It didn't change, ma'am. I edited myself to avoid ticking people off further and because I'd read it and realize - hmm, might not want to go there. I didn't change information, really - and I'll admit I updated YOUR post to add the last sentence that you added to your own.

Integrity first, of course.

[carolinapooh, BSN, RN]

Now you're just baiting me, so I'm done with the games.

Back to our regularly scheduled forum.

[Lunah, MSN, RN]

As always, please avoid personal insults. Closing this thread. Thanks!