Collegiality- Bedside Nursing vs. CRNA

[1happygirl]

Just a quick question of the licensed nurses* out there. Does there seem to be more collegiality among bedside nurses or the more advanced practice nurses ie NP, CRNA, etc? I know people are people, but I seem to see more collegiality among the advanced practice nurses as opposed to many (not all) in bedside nursing. I see the advanced practice folks more like the medical interns and residents I work, with having a helpful attitude and much commaradarie. Many thanks as I have not been in the profession as long as some on the board.

*Sorry but people on the board used to explain that after being a student you would have a different understanding and you do. Until you work as a nurse in a clinical setting your perceptions are different. Please don't be offended. I thought balderdash when I was a student, but I understand now.

[TazziRN, RN]

Whaa.....?

The two paragraphs do not make sense together............

[arpeggiated]

Congeniality?

[scrubby bubby]

Collegiality: (Definition)-

1. Shared power and authority vested among colleagues.

What the OP is saying makes perfect sense. See the defintion of collegiality above. Think "camaraderie"- the are similar. And the OP uses both words in her post. And, she also astericked a point to footnote it at the bottom of her post.

I think what she's asking makes perfect sense... anyone who understands these definitions care to respond?

[scrubby bubby]

We don't have Advance Practice Nurses on my floor, so unfortunately, I can't answer your question, 1happygirl. But, I do understand perfectly what you're saying.

[TazziRN, RN]

I know the definition of collegiality, I just didn't get the second paragraph in relation to the first.

[scrubby bubby]

It looks like the second paragraph is a footnote to an asterick she singled out in the first paragraph. Just pointing out the definition since arpeggiated didn't seem to grasp it.

[TrudyRN]

I think, as you said, people are people. In other words, it depends more on who the colleagues are, less on their titles.

[Altra, BSN, RN]

The key to answering the OP's question probably lies in the definition:

Collegiality: (Definition)-

1. Shared power and authority vested among colleagues.

As is often discussed here at allnurses.com, it's hard to be collegial, or congenial for that matter, when you feel your work and/or your environment are out of your control.

OP, in better environments where everyone feels they have a vested interest in patient outcomes, you'll see collegiality among RNs and all members of the health care team. In others you'll notice a very definite us vs. them mentality, usually born out of frustration over unrealistic expectations from patients, management, and/or coworkers.

[TraumaICURN]

I know the definition of collegiality, I just didn't get the second paragraph in relation to the first.

I think she is saying that she only wants licensed nurses to answer her question....no nursing students.

[1happygirl]

To clarify:

1. Yes, the asterisk meant only liscensed nurses need respond (no offense to the students) and

2. The question is about collegiality and camaraderie among co-workers/colleagues

As several have pointed out, with vested patient outcomes there is a difference. It just seems to me there is a lot of "I'm going to report this-that, tick-tacking, etc" among colleagues (nurse to nurse) that does not appear present among the other members of the healthcare community I deal with on a day to day basis. It got me thinking especially since 2-3 people from my unit have just been accepted into advanced practice programmes.

[bigsyis]

I think, as you said, people are people. In other words, it depends more on who the colleagues are, less on their titles.

Absolutely! You don't have to have a degree to act professionally and collegially and congenially. It sure would help the image of Nurses as Professionals if they did act that way, though!