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Has anyone joined this National Nursing Organization yet?? They say that they have over 60,000 members.

They want to provide a National Nursing Union however at some point in the future to help nationalize standards for nurses

:chair: What about "corporate campaigns" conducted by hospital managers against nurses who try to advocate for their patients? Refusal to call in available staff, bullying and targeting nurses until they reach the breaking point in a hostile work environment and quit because of the perverted concept of "teamwork: we tell you what to do and you do it!" Good nurses, honest nurses, compassionate and highly educated and skilled nurses have left the profession in droves, but hospital corporations refuse to acknowlege any responsibility for their self-inflicted troubles attracting and retaining nurses. During initial hiring interviews nurses are asked about their knowledge of/feelings about unions. Where do the hospitals get the millions of dollars they spend on "union busters" anyway? Could it be from their income...money insurers and the government pays to reimburse for nursing care, or from patients who leave legacy money? Most bad outcomes in hospitals can be attributed to inadequate staffing and money that should be used to hire more nurses is used for bonuses, inflated executive salaries, advertising and layers of middle managers. Compassion is part and parcel of the Golden Rule and you bet we're going to continue to speak out in truth to prevent harm to our patients and our profession's ability to advocate. If we don't hang together then we'll most certainly be hanged as individuals!

You failed to answer my question. Do you have information regarding Roseanne's credentials or do you not. Nice try do divert attention, but I'd rether not get tangential.

Thank you.

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You failed to answer my question. Do you have information regarding Roseanne's credentials or do you not. Nice try do divert attention, but I'd rether not get tangential.

Thank you.[/quote]"Can you shed some light?

I fail to see the "compassion" in the corporate campaigns she is and has been leading on hopitals."

:confused: I thought I was answering your question thoughtfully and directly. Instead of engaging in debate you "bait and switch", blaming and accusing; Now you're asking about "credentials." The CNA Board of Directors, (who are all elected RNs who work for a living providing direct bedside care of patients), hired Rose Ann as their executive director. First of all, Rose Ann DeMoro's "credentials" must satisfy the Board of Directors! As a member of CNA I haven't found any fault with her leadership and ability to articulate and advocate for nurses and healthcare; or her ability to hire, fire, or otherwise educate and direct the staff. So, yes, I do have all the information I need regarding her education and experience. Are you going to be making a decision about whether or not to join us based on where she went to college? Ultimately, this thread is about the NNOC. Kudos to the Cook County Nurses who voted 2:1 in favor of joining a real national union for professional and patient advocacy. Welcome to the NNOC! All aboard for an RN lead proposal for Healthcare Reform!

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You failed to answer my question. Do you have information regarding Roseanne's credentials or do you not. Nice try do divert attention, but I'd rether not get tangential.

Thank you.[/quote]"Can you shed some light?

I fail to see the "compassion" in the corporate campaigns she is and has been leading on hopitals."

:confused: I thought I was answering your question thoughtfully and directly. Instead of engaging in debate you "bait and switch", blaming and accusing; Now you're asking about "credentials." The CNA Board of Directors, (who are all elected RNs who work for a living providing direct bedside care of patients), hired Rose Ann as their executive director. First of all, Rose Ann DeMoro's "credentials" must satisfy the Board of Directors! As a member of CNA I haven't found any fault with her leadership and ability to articulate and advocate for nurses and healthcare; or her ability to hire, fire, or otherwise educate and direct the staff. So, yes, I do have all the information I need regarding her education and experience. Are you going to be making a decision about whether or not to join us based on where she went to college? Ultimately, this thread is about the NNOC. Kudos to the Cook County Nurses who voted 2:1 in favor of joining a real national union for professional and patient advocacy. Welcome to the NNOC! All aboard for an RN lead proposal for Healthcare Reform!

You are the one who stated the Rose Ann Demoro was "University Educated"

It seems you have information that you chose not to share, or is it something you heard or was told and you just believe it?

If the NNOC wants to attract more nurses into their ranks shouldn't they have "all the information they want" as well? Shouldn't we all know the qualifications of the person that leads the California Nurses Association and the NNOC? Does she or the organization have something to hide? Do you have information that you choose not to share or were directed not to share?

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do you have information regarding roseanne's credentials

nurses union leader - rose ann demoro

http://people-link5.inch.com/pipermail/portside/week-of-mon-20050425/015151.html

http://informedsources.blogspot.com/2005/05/nurses-union-to-all-opponents-you-are.html

http://w3.rn.com/articlefeatures.asp?id=12844&profile=rn_news&f=printer

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:rolleyes: The bios and "credentials" of the CNA Board of Directors have been featured in California Nurse. (We've got nothing to hide!) Some went to hospital schools, some have done graduate work and/or have graduate degrees and some were educated at community colleges. We have the same license and we each have employment contracts that protects us from "insubordination" for speaking out against unsafe assignments. You are obviously anti-union and you've chosen to throw stones and cast aspersions on the content of our character instead of engaging in meaningful debate. We have a vision for healthcare, a "12 Step" RN-led Proposal for reform; a long term solution to the corporate healthcare crisis. Simply put, our goal is equal access and a single standard of quality care for all people. Nurses in other states are joining with us in the NNOC, realizing that the promise of managed care has failed to control cost and increase access. Our vision and our voice has been published in The Washington Post, The New York Times, The San Francisco Chronicle, The Sacramento Bee to name a few. Nurses are calling us and visiting from Australia, Canada, Japan, The Netherlands, England, as well as Arizona, Michigan, Ohio, Maine...to name a few; Many of us have been invited guests on public radio and public access television, have given public testimony to regulatory agencies and legislative healthcare committees. Our socially progressive ideals and ideas will survive and thrive; for every 10 of us you target, another 100 will rise up and continue to build a national movement. From Shakespeare's 'The Tempest', I quote: "A peace above all earthly dignities, A still and quiet conscience...Corruption wins not more than honesty. Still in thy right hand carry gentle peace, To silence envious tongues: be just and fear not. Let all the ends thou aim'st at be thy country's, thy God's, and truth's..."

http://www.calnurses.org

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:rolleyes: The bios and "credentials" of the CNA Board of Directors have been featured in California Nurse. (We've got nothing to hide!) Some went to hospital schools, some have done graduate work and/or have graduate degrees and some were educated at community colleges. We have the same license and we each have employment contracts that protects us from "insubordination" for speaking out against unsafe assignments. You are obviously anti-union and you've chosen to throw stones and cast aspersions on the content of our character instead of engaging in meaningful debate. We have a vision for healthcare, a "12 Step" RN-led Proposal for reform; a long term solution to the corporate healthcare crisis. Simply put, our goal is equal access and a single standard of quality care for all people. Nurses in other states are joining with us in the NNOC, realizing that the promise of managed care has failed to control cost and increase access. Our vision and our voice has been published in The Washington Post, The New York Times, The San Francisco Chronicle, The Sacramento Bee to name a few. Nurses are calling us and visiting from Australia, Canada, Japan, The Netherlands, England, as well as Arizona, Michigan, Ohio, Maine...to name a few; Many of us have been invited guests on public radio and public access television, have given public testimony to regulatory agencies and legislative healthcare committees. Our socially progressive ideals and ideas will survive and thrive; for every 10 of us you target, another 100 will rise up and continue to build a national movement. From Shakespeare's 'The Tempest', I quote: "A peace above all earthly dignities, A still and quiet conscience...Corruption wins not more than honesty. Still in thy right hand carry gentle peace, To silence envious tongues: be just and fear not. Let all the ends thou aim'st at be thy country's, thy God's, and truth's..."

www.calnurses.org

Thank you for the links you provided. Can you tell me what level of education Rose Ann Demorow has, where she went to "university" and when? What was her major and what degree or degrees she currently holds. I have been unsuccessfull in my searches and you seem to know the answers.

I think if she wants to lead, we should be able to know these things.

Instead of cryptic quotes and links to vague and generalized statements on various websites can you just answer the question? If you do not know the answer that's ok. Just say so.

Thank you,

Sherwood

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:rolleyes: The bios and "credentials" of the CNA Board of Directors have been featured in California Nurse. (We've got nothing to hide!) Some went to hospital schools, some have done graduate work and/or have graduate degrees and some were educated at community colleges. We have the same license and we each have employment contracts that protects us from "insubordination" for speaking out against unsafe assignments. You are obviously anti-union and you've chosen to throw stones and cast aspersions on the content of our character instead of engaging in meaningful debate. We have a vision for healthcare, a "12 Step" RN-led Proposal for reform; a long term solution to the corporate healthcare crisis. Simply put, our goal is equal access and a single standard of quality care for all people. Nurses in other states are joining with us in the NNOC, realizing that the promise of managed care has failed to control cost and increase access. Our vision and our voice has been published in The Washington Post, The New York Times, The San Francisco Chronicle, The Sacramento Bee to name a few. Nurses are calling us and visiting from Australia, Canada, Japan, The Netherlands, England, as well as Arizona, Michigan, Ohio, Maine...to name a few; Many of us have been invited guests on public radio and public access television, have given public testimony to regulatory agencies and legislative healthcare committees. Our socially progressive ideals and ideas will survive and thrive; for every 10 of us you target, another 100 will rise up and continue to build a national movement. From Shakespeare's 'The Tempest', I quote: "A peace above all earthly dignities, A still and quiet conscience...Corruption wins not more than honesty. Still in thy right hand carry gentle peace, To silence envious tongues: be just and fear not. Let all the ends thou aim'st at be thy country's, thy God's, and truth's..."

www.calnurses.org

I guess you don't have the answers to the questions I asked in my previous post or the answers are not something you or Rose Anne would want the people she wants to represent to know about.

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I guess you don't have the answers to the questions I asked in my previous post or the answers are not something you or Rose Anne would want the people she wants to represent to know about.

She began organizing unions after leaving a graduate program at UC Santa Barbara in Women's Studies. Does it really matter that much? She has a degree. I don't even feel strongly either way, you just really seemed to want to know. I'm sure if you call the CNA, they'll give you more information about her. Not trying to be snotty, just trying to help. There is a ton of information on her if you google her. I haven't sorted through it all to find the exact specifics of her education level.

IMHO, I don't care if someone has a degree or worked at McDonalds for 15 years. If they're getting the job done, good.

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She began organizing unions after leaving a graduate program at UC Santa Barbara in Women's Studies. Does it really matter that much? She has a degree. I don't even feel strongly either way, you just really seemed to want to know. I'm sure if you call the CNA, they'll give you more information about her. Not trying to be snotty, just trying to help. There is a ton of information on her if you google her. I haven't sorted through it all to find the exact specifics of her education level.

IMHO, I don't care if someone has a degree or worked at McDonalds for 15 years. If they're getting the job done, good.

I have googled her, and am unable to find what kind of education she has had. "leaving a graduate program" doesn't answer the question either. CNA will not give this info to me on the phone, I have tried that too. This all makes me beleive they are hiding something. I even tried to pay for this info from a people search, and she has paid to have this blocked. Why would she do that if she isn't hiding something. :rolleyes:

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I guess you don't have the answers to the questions I asked in my previous post or the answers are not something you or Rose Anne would want the people she wants to represent to know about.

And Sherwood, what exactlly are your credentials? And what exactly have you done to improve the nursing profession, and patient care? As far as I can see, you spend so much time denigrating unions and trying to prevent anyone from unionizing, that you have no time to do anything to improve the miserable state of affairs that the nursing profession has become. There must be a better use of your time than that.

Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN

Spokane, Washington

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And Sherwood, what exactlly are your credentials? And what exactly have you done to improve the nursing profession, and patient care? As far as I can see, you spend so much time denigrating unions and trying to prevent anyone from unionizing, that you have no time to do anything to improve the miserable state of affairs that the nursing profession has become. There must be a better use of your time than that.

Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN

Spokane, Washington

I have answered that question before, you must have missed it.

I advocate for nurses, I am on several committees that work to improve patient care and I advocate for our nursing staff.

I teach several classes a year, at my hospital as well a few others. I hold my CCRN as you do. I am an ATCN provider and an ATCN instructor. I precept and orient both new grads and experienced nurses.

I have written to and met face to face with members of city councils, Mayors, State representatives, Governors and members of Congress. We have discussed healthcare, The nursing shortage, nurse staffing ratio's as well as several other passions of mine unrelated to nursing.

I am a Husband of 23 years, I am a Father. My oldest daughter is attending her first year at a University as...........guess what? A nursing major!

All this and I work full time as an ICU/CCU RN and Trauma Clinician at a level II Trauma Center in the middle of the OC in sunny Southern California.

And I don't hide behind fake names, avatars or nicknames.

Sherwood Cox, R.N., CCRN

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