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cna now required on rn application

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by sonomala sonomala (Member)

They just changed that this year and while I think its great for rn students to learn and hopefully later on get be kinder to cnas, I think its going to do some bad around here.

One its going to flood the cna market where right now salaries are good and employment is guaranteed.

Two in this bad economy a lot of well meaning people who won't stand a chance at rn but need a better paying job or even just a job thats not laying off will have a hard time getting into the classes. Right now our instructor gets over a dozen calls a day about cna classes and they fill up quick.

Do they require that in your state? In my state, it depends on the school (I think). The college that I got my CNA from does not require you to be a CNA or LPN before starting nursing school. However, that college also doesn't offer a RN program. They only have a BSN program.

The college that I'm getting my RN from requires you to do it in stages. You must be a CNA to apply for the LPN program. And, you must be a LPN to apply for the RN program.

I just got my CNA in Oct. I'm going to work as a CNA until I have my LPN done. Then I will try to find a job as a LPN to work until I get my RN.

The school I'm applying to doesn't require students to be students to be CNAs. NA don't get paid a lot, but the position is stable and you can get plenty over time. I was and still am learning everything I need to know on the job, so, fortunately, I didn't have to pay for anything.

Theres only one lpn program left out of the three major nursing colleges but it does require cna. That school also has an rn program, it and the other two don't require lpn to be rn just cna. But again thats a brand new req. starting with 2009 applicants.

My school started requiring CNA beforeyou can begin RN or LPN programs. The school is a community college system across the state, and each of the schools in the system requires it.

I enjoyed the class, recently passed the state exam, and am trying to get a job at a hospital. I applied for 16 last week, I'm hoping to hear something.

fuzzywuzzy, CNA

Specializes in LTC. Has 3 years experience.

I just think that places of employment should make their nurses work one shift as a CNA, twice a year. I know the vast majority of nurses are not above wiping poop.... I don't care about that, I just want them to see what it's like to be pulled in 6 directions at once and know that we DO work!

My charge nurse is horrible. I don't think she's seen a bedpan in 20 years. The only time she speaks to us is to give us an order in a condescending tone of voice, with no eye contact. Most of her requests are completely unreasonable... like skip my lunch break to sit with a man who keeps standing up and setting his alarm off. Would I like to sit with this man for the rest of my shift? Sure, he's my favorite resident. But I have about 10 other people to take care of tonight and call bells are going off like crazy. Or she'll want us to feed someone who can feed himself but doesn't want to eat because he just woke up. He got more combative every time we went in there but when we said he just needs us to get out of his face for a while so he can wake up, and he'll eat when he's ready, she acted like we were being lazy and neglectful. It's stupid stuff like that all the time that makes me want them to see what it's like.

I really like that idea fuzzywuzzy! Have them spend a shift or two in the shoes of a cna and that I think would change a great many of their attitudes.

HeartsOpenWide, RN

Specializes in Ante-Intra-Postpartum, Post Gyne.

IN California they use to require those going for the RN to have CNA first but they dropped that several years ago. It is however, still required for the LVN. It not that we did not learn CNA duties, we did all that in our first two weeks of my BSN program. Its pretty much incorporated into the program so that a seperate CNA course/certification is not required prior to getting in to RN school

I am attending Edison Community College in Piqua, Ohio. I have never heard anything about having to be a CNA or an LPN before you become a registered nurse. I was accepted into the RN program and had no certifications at all. I am however going to work for an in-home care service that is going to pay for my CNA course. It's only a week or two long.

Its brand new in NC, but each state is different as I learned from all these great posters :)

I am at a Community College in Wyoming, and the admissions person told me it was mandatory to be a CNA first. I don't necessarily have to work as one, but I have to get the certification for it first. Since I'm starting school in Spring, I'll probably take off a semester to work as one. :D

fuzzywuzzy, CNA

Specializes in LTC. Has 3 years experience.

It seems like getting the certification and not being required to use it is a waste of time... what's the point in making people get it if they're not going to use it? The class is totally different from working as a CNA. Working as one will actually teach you time management in addition to basic nursing care skills.

here it is not required but it looks good when you apply for NS. It shows that you have some nursing exp and your not starting school with out a clue.

I've always thought that it would be better for a RN to have had some CNA experience. I can see your point though!

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