Cheating pre-nursing students

Nursing Students Pre-Nursing

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Thought I would bring this up because it has been happening way too much at my school and it is my biggest pet peeve.

So I took Anatomy my first semester of college. The classroom was about 90% women wanting to enter the nursing program. About 2 weeks into the semester we had our first quiz. We had a quiz every week after that. By about the 4th quiz, my teacher figured out that a group of 3 girls had been cheating on quizzes. So from there on we rearranged seats for every quiz and test to prevent cheating.

This very same situation has happened in a lot of my other classes that consist of mostly pre-nursing students. It happened in Physio., Psych., Human Development, and even my EMT class which consists mostly of CNAs, LVNs, MAs, and psych. techs wanting to switch careers.

I understand the pressure that we are under to get good grades but at the same time, if anyone isn't commited to learning the material, or just doesn't have the time to study, why would they want to go into nursing? Has nursing been glorified so much to the point that people will do anything just to get in? I guess people really are that desperate. I don't like it at all.

What do you think?

Nursing school wasn't so far back in my memory I can't recall it, and I recall there were cheaters. There are now, there will be in the future.

Thing is, the ones who make it to graduation aren't that group who had to keep causing the rearranging of seats.

I remember a specific time in school when it was discovered that someone (or someones? don't remember) were, in all likelihood, cheating. Without proof, no one could be dismissed....so the "proof" was obtained by the instructors making some WICKED hard tests, allowing no one to come in late or leave early, no one could even go to the bathroom--I kid you not. If you had a bladder issue, you had better empty it before that exam. Our desks were placed as far apart as was physically possible in the testing classroom, we were GIVEN pencils, no one was to bring in a THING. No water bottles (they even thought of that, there were cups and a cooler). No tissues (you could raise your hand to be given one from their box).

I remember freaking out that I'd somehow look at someone the wrong way during the exam while absentmindedly lost in thought and get my butt expelled, lol.....

Turns out, the rumor was correct, and within a week our class was three students lighter. Instructors aren't as dumb as you think ;)

Wait until 'your' group of cheaters is faced with an exam they can't cheat for, a skill evaluation they can't fake (that's a big one...when you get to skills lab, there IS no cheating, it's a 1:1 demonstration exam).

Hang in there....the honest will prevail :)

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I'm just curious how your teacher knew they were cheating? If they were caught cheating, shouldn't they have been expelled?

I actually don't know how she found out. And yes, I think they should have been expelled.

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...no one could even go to the bathroom--I kid you not. If you had a bladder issue, you had better empty it before that exam.

My physio teacher did this! Previous students would ask to go to the bathroom and they would take notes outside and look things up or Google answers. So he added a rule to the syllabus that if you left to go to the bathroom, automatic ZERO. We also had to ask him for everything if we needed it, whether it was a pencil, a tissue, or even a tampon. Heheee

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My physio teacher did this! Previous students would ask to go to the bathroom and they would take notes outside and look things up or Google answers. So he added a rule to the syllabus that if you left to go to the bathroom, automatic ZERO. We also had to ask him for everything if we needed it, whether it was a pencil, a tissue, or even a tampon. Heheee

Smart teacher.

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I've noticed cheating going on in some of my classes as well. I had one instructor who would often leave the room during an exam or quiz and there were several students who would share answers when this happened. My psysiology instructor started making up three different sets of exams so that nobody who sat next to each other had the same questions. I understand the reasons for her doing this, but I was always afraid that I'd get the "harder" exam! LOL Even though she said that they were equal in difficulty.

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Everyone has their own moral standards. Some people want the easy way out and others are honestly interested in the materials they are learning. I think that will always be the case.

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Do not worry about them. That is giving them more of your time then they deserve. From what I have seen, especially with ADN/ diploma schools is many people think it is going to be easy as long as they can get in. After all it is ONLY 2 years and ONLY an associates. If they can't get through A&P on on their own, they won't get though nursing. I have heard people think that getting through A&P was the hard part then it nursing part would be easy. If they don't actually learn the A&P, learning about all the disorders/illnesses and such is going to be hell, if not impossible. Instructors may give a brief A&P refresher.....as in maybe 15-30 minutes reviewing a system before plunging into the disorders....but then again, they may not even do that. And even if they could cheat through nursing school, there is no way to cheat on NCLEX. And a nursing degree is no good if you can not get licensed.

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You shouldn't let it bother you too much. Cheating in a pre-req class is somewhat common. Cheating your way through nursing school and the NCLEX... Well, that would be impressive. ;)

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I had a classmate like this in my CNA class. I was one of the better students who studied hard and she just was lazy so she was always asking me for answers on everything. I didn't mind helping her study, but I wasn't going to just GIVE her the answers. Well, guess what? Those of us who studied on our own passed, the ones who slacked, failed. So, in the end, the cheaters do lose.

I agree, it's so annoying! Cheaters should be expelled.

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I had a lady in my A&P class whoe wrote the answers on her wrist during lab....She ended getting an A. I got a B but i earned it. Cheaters never prosper ...They shouldnt be allowed to enter the program

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They really don't bother me. Like others have said, cheating can only get you so far. If they have to cheat in the pre-req classes, how are they going to do on the HESI or TEAS? and if they manage to get into the program they will not last long.

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My Physio 2 class started with 25 people and ended up with only 8. The class was hard hard hard, and the prof said as much on the first day of class. She was an excellent instructor and the ones who studied passed.

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