I'm in my last semester of pre-reqs, starting nursing school in the fall. I have noticed a bit of casual cheating (who knew this was a thing!?). Last week, a couple students next to me, while taking a test in A&P II were blatantly cheating. How do I know? Well, this teacher gives color coded tests, such that you should never be next to anyone with the same version of the test as yourself. HOWEVER, the questions are all the same, just jumbled around. Long story short, they were talking and comparing tests in detail, also, our teacher made a printing error and had to manually write some questions (for only one version of the test) on the board. One of the alleged cheaters turned in her test, before the professor even finished writing the questions on the board! (I was shocked.) He was flustered because of his error and didn't notice what was going on with these girls.
My dilemma... what is my responsibility (if any)with this blatant cheating and with casual cheating that I see almost daily (with others)? I'm a person of strong character and have very black and white views on this for myself and my kids. I also spend hours studying for a test only to get within 5 points of these "cheaters".
These girls, specifically, are pre-nursing. If they somehow make it in, how would you deal with this in the program? It could really screw up someone's care down the line and frankly it scares me to have to share patients with someone like this.
My petty concern, is that they will retaliate. They already don't seem to be the nicest of people and would hate to end up with a keyed car or something. If I don't do something, they could end up hurting someone down the line with these poor habits.
Gah! Help. Have you ever been in a similar situation? At what point is enough, enough?
Cheaters are everywhere and honestly, taking on one of them would be like trying to take on all of them. I had the same problem. We had to write exams before we were allowed to work in the hospitals and half of my class just had their phones or notes with them. I was really mad because I had spent weeks preparing for these exams and they were all going to get higher results than me. I felt a disturbing sense of pleasure when eventhough they cheated, they still couldn't get the results they wanted and then most of them failed their practical exams..It was justice I guess.. The point of my story is that don't do anything about it, they will be punished. If not now then sometime. All we can hope is that theses people don't make it onto the floor.
Cheaters are everywhere and honestly, taking on one of them would be like trying to take on all of them. I had the same problem. We had to write exams before we were allowed to work in the hospitals and half of my class just had their phones or notes with them. I was really mad because I had spent weeks preparing for these exams and they were all going to get higher results than me. I felt a disturbing sense of pleasure when eventhough they cheated, they still couldn't get the results they wanted and then most of them failed their practical exams..It was justice I guess.. The point of my story is that don't do anything about it, they will be punished. If not now then sometime. All we can hope is that these people don't make it onto the floor.
If you want to report cheating that's fine, just be ready to bear the consequences be it positive or negative. We actually had cheating in one my nursing courses, all the instructor said that were investigating the case and thats all I ever heard.
My instructor made it clear that students always cheat. Ouch! However, he designed an exam that measures knowledge of students. Many students mark low on their exams.
I have been studying/reading/reviewing. Consequently, I stayed in 90+. That's the result of an effort, especially someone like me who has no solid background in science. I've never cheated. All of my scores came out from my head.
It's ultimately the professor's job to catch cheating but many don't want to rock the boat in that the administration sometimes see the very existence of cheating to reflect poorly on the department or school or profs don't want to fail too many students especially if they are adjunct and can be out of a job quickly so having a good pass rate means you are a good prof and will get asked back.
This would produce mediocre students if the educators are pressure to give up grades easily.
To be completely honest, I cheated in my pre-reqs. Got into the nusing program, and I am doing great without having to cheat at all now. I Haven't made less than a B in any class either! I dont care what anyone says, we all have cheated at one point or another. Its better to cheat than to repeat! :)
To be completely honest, I cheated in my pre-reqs. Got into the nusing program, and I am doing great without having to cheat at all now. I Haven't made less than a B in any class either! I dont care what anyone says, we all have cheated at one point or another. Its better to cheat than to repeat! :)
No we have not ALL cheated. That's just something people who are unethical say to convince themselves and/or others that what they are doing is normal, acceptable behavior. The "everyone is doing it" is a tired old phrase that is not now and has never been true. "Nobody's perfect" is also often used as an attempt to distract from the actual fact that a)no one expects perfect and b)there is a middle ground between being "perfect" (unattainable of course) and dishonest: that middle ground is the flawed but generally honest individual with integrity and an inner conscience. The fact that none of us are perfect does not give one carte blanche to lie and cheat and yet claim that because nobody else is perfect, our behavior cannot be called out.
The fact that you see nothing at all wrong with what you did leads me to believe that it won't be long before you are fudging your charting, cheating on your taxes, or committing other similar acts. It's really easy to slide into patterns like that if you have no inner voice telling you it's wrong and you have not suffered negative consequences for it-that could lead to a false sense of invincibility. Because ultimately that stuff catches up with a person one way or another.
Is this even for real? At the very least, hopefully the "BSN RN" part is not real. There is no room for that attitude in this--or, for that matter, any other--professional discipline.
Is this even for real? At the very least, hopefully the "BSN RN" part is not real. There is no room for that attitude in this--or, for that matter, any other--professional discipline.
The poster says she is not an RN yet; due to graduate from her BSN program in December.
Specializes in Nsg. Ed, Infusion, Pediatrics, LTC.
The previously mentioned poster who admitted to cheating in her pre-requisite classes in a BSN program also plans to become a CRNA. As a nursing instructor, her comfort level with respect to having a questionable moral compass troubles me greatly.
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Cheaters are everywhere and honestly, taking on one of them would be like trying to take on all of them. I had the same problem. We had to write exams before we were allowed to work in the hospitals and half of my class just had their phones or notes with them. I was really mad because I had spent weeks preparing for these exams and they were all going to get higher results than me. I felt a disturbing sense of pleasure when eventhough they cheated, they still couldn't get the results they wanted and then most of them failed their practical exams..It was justice I guess.. The point of my story is that don't do anything about it, they will be punished. If not now then sometime. All we can hope is that theses people don't make it onto the floor.