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Chamberlain no longer accepting ANYONE out of state

Just got this from an enrollment adviser @ Chamberlain. Called the school and they confirmed. Bummer.

As of Thursday, May 22nd. We are no longer taking any applications from anyone that lives out of the state of Missouri or Ohio. This is due to a change in our clinical program and us having to be recleared through every state board of nursing in every state. We will not be accepting any applications until we have finalized everything with the State Board of Nursing in each state. Until then we cannot admit anyone who doesn't live in Missouri or Ohio, which is where our campuses are. I just found out about this.

txspadequeenRN, BSN, RN

Specializes in ICU, PICC Nurse, Nursing Supervisor.

hummm, what about the people currently enrolled in other states..

Some are able to go on, others are being asked to either dis-enroll, or come to Missouri or Ohio like once a week which is obviously impossible if you live pretty far away. All these problems lately will definitely make me steer clear of this school whether they get it ironed out or not.

txspadequeenRN, BSN, RN

Specializes in ICU, PICC Nurse, Nursing Supervisor.

oh my this is sad!!!

some are able to go on, others are being asked to either dis-enroll, or come to missouri or ohio like once a week which is obviously impossible if you live pretty far away. all these problems lately will definitely make me steer clear of this school whether they get it ironed out or not.

To those of you enrolled in this program - I'm very sorry that this has happened. I know all of you paid lots of money for this program, and that this is going to prolong your nursing education.

Unfortunately, I'm not surprised by this. I have a lot to share with those who are interested. Feel free to PM me.

TaDaaa! Yep, this is a problem, I have been informed by the school of my options, however none are realistic....still waiting on final word as to $$$$...we shall see....

To those of you enrolled in this program - I'm very sorry that this has happened. I know all of you paid lots of money for this program, and that this is going to prolong your nursing education.

Unfortunately, I'm not surprised by this. I have a lot to share with those who are interested. Feel free to PM me.

I am thinking of going there this fall, please tell me what is going on?

Ok, I'm going to go back on my post a little.

I had a very long, in depth talk with an enrollment advisor at Chamberlain. Then, I called the Maine BON. Here's the gist-

It is extremely hard for an online nursing program to make big changes in their program, because they have to go through EVERY state BON. Brick and Mortar colleges don't have to do that. So, Chamberlain just changed and improved their program. Therefore, they're having to be re-cleared through every state. I was told that by Spring 08', they should be back to normal.

Maine State BON said that they have had a lot of Chamberlain grads. They consider it a respected program. So I guess... I won't say never. Since I'm applying to schools from Japan, it's going to be tough.. I will most likely use Chamberlain as my fall-back.

Yes, This IS very sad....I unfortunately am 2 weeks away from completing my 3rd semester and just got a call last night that I will have to withdrawl....GRRRR!!!!!!

For those who are considering this program.....please run! I have wasted a year of time and money. This last semester has been brutal and now I will not even be able to finish the courses I am in, with 2 weeks left!!!

It has been a struggle from the beginning with Chamberlain, and I kept giving them the benefit of the doubt.....growing pains and all....but this is just really a big slap in the face to have come this far and now have nothing to show...........

Hoping to make it into a program locally now....we'll see what happens.

Sorry to everyone who is in the same boat as I........

MERCEDES674, MSN, RN

Specializes in ICU-Step Down, Cardiac/CHF, Telemetry, L&D.

Does this apply to the RN to BSN (online) students also? I just enrolled in Chamberlain online two days ago and the advisor didn't mention any problems with the program.

txspadequeenRN, BSN, RN

Specializes in ICU, PICC Nurse, Nursing Supervisor.

there is no way this is correct information. chamberlin would only have to answer to the bon in their state. i can tell you 100% sure that texas does not have anything to do with a change of curriculum of a out of state school. i'm not even sure you have to get approval for minor changes. texas will allow you to sit for the nclex if the school you are attending is approved by the state bon. i'm not sure what you mean by brick and mortar school cause chamberlin is not just a online program they have on campus students. someone in that nursing office needs some educating!!!!

it is extremely hard for an online nursing program to make big changes in their program, because they have to go through every state bon.

MERCEDES674, MSN, RN

Specializes in ICU-Step Down, Cardiac/CHF, Telemetry, L&D.

I am enrolling in their RN to BSN online program and they sent me the registration packet and it includes the information for the online ASN/ADN program. I will quote some of what it says: " Web-based students may arrange clinical experiences within their geographic region in STATES THAT HAVE APPROVED CHAMBERLAIN." A few pages later it says: " State Board approvals of Chamberlain College of Nursing are necessary in each state in which clinical experiences are completed. Web based studients residing in states that have not yet granted approval to Chamberlain may be required to complete the clinical experiences in another state. Students should contact the National Clinical coordinator for the current state approval status.

TX: Their ONLINE program has to re-go through the BON's. I personally talked to the president of the program, so I'm 100% the information is COMPLETELY accurate. This only applies to the Online ASN program. They are going to slowly allow students from various states to apply as their home states approve the curriculum. Here are the emails between the president and I...!

Hello,

I hope you don't mind me emailing a question, I have tried calling and emailing and can't seem to get the same answers. I was super interested in the online ASN program, and was just told it is now for Missouri and Ohio students only for the time being. I was wondering if you could tell me a tentative date for when you will start offering it to other states again? I know about the problems with California, Washington etc.. We are military (stationed overseas) and will be moving to most likely New Mexico in the summer of 2008. I was really hoping to apply for your program that fall. Any kind of information you could give me I would appreciate so much, and again I'm sorry for bothering you.

Respectfully,

Caitlin ********

Ms. ********:

You are absolutely not bothering me. Unfortunately, I cannot give you a timetable, as the approval process and time differs significantly among states. We are actively pursuing approval in most states -- it is simply a matter of how long the process will take.

I would suggest checking back with us nearer the time of your application. We can give you a status update at that time, and hope that we will be able to accommodate you.

Sincerely,

Susan *********

txspadequeenRN, BSN, RN

Specializes in ICU, PICC Nurse, Nursing Supervisor.

this is for the state of texas straight from the texas bon site.

out-of-state programs/online programs/correspondence courses

the board of nurse examiners for the state of texas (bne) approves and regulates nursing education programs in the state of texas. at this time, the bne does not approve/accredit out-of-state nursing education programs which are outside of texas' jurisdiction, including out-of-state online programs/correspondence courses. however, the bne is currently evaluating the need for rules in this area and will be providing guidance in addressing this issue in the near future.

the bne does recognize graduates from pre-licensure nursing education programs that are approved/accredited by other state boards of nursing as eligible to apply to take the nclex examination(s) and apply for licensure in texas. for example, Excelsior college is one of these programs. excelsior college is approved by the new york state board of nursing and graduates from that program may apply to take the nclex-rn examination in texas or any other state and apply for licensure as a registered nurse in texas.

tx: their online program has to re-go through the bon's. i personally talked to the president of the program, so i'm 100% the information is completely accurate. this only applies to the online asn program. they are going to slowly allow students from various states to apply as their home states approve the curriculum. here are the emails between the president and i...!

hello,

i hope you don't mind me emailing a question, i have tried calling and emailing and can't seem to get the same answers. i was super interested in the online asn program, and was just told it is now for missouri and ohio students only for the time being. i was wondering if you could tell me a tentative date for when you will start offering it to other states again? i know about the problems with california, washington etc.. we are military (stationed overseas) and will be moving to most likely new mexico in the summer of 2008. i was really hoping to apply for your program that fall. any kind of information you could give me i would appreciate so much, and again i'm sorry for bothering you.

respectfully,

caitlin ********

ms. ********:

you are absolutely not bothering me. unfortunately, i cannot give you a timetable, as the approval process and time differs significantly among states. we are actively pursuing approval in most states -- it is simply a matter of how long the process will take.

i would suggest checking back with us nearer the time of your application. we can give you a status update at that time, and hope that we will be able to accommodate you.

sincerely,

susan *********

Soo...maybe your state is one of the ones that already went through? I do know they have had several go through already (though I don't think they're yet accepting out of state students). Who knows- the whole dang thing is so confusing. I am by no means an expert on this whatsoever. I just imagine that the president of the college is not giving out misinformation. If she is... then that college would lose ALL of it's credibility in my book.

"Web based studients residing in states that have not yet granted approval to Chamberlain may be required to complete the clinical experiences in another state. Students should contact the National Clinical coordinator for the current state approval status."

Unfortunately, I was not given this info when I was accepted into the program 8/06......I also was not given an option of going to a different state to do clinicals. So.....after almost a year of being on the Dean's List at Chamberlain......they won't even let me come to St.Louis for a week or 2 at a time to do clinicals. I begged to do that at my own expense. They said they were withdrawing me and offered $1000 for me to keep my mouth shut. Obviously, I didn't accept.

I am in the exact same situation and I feel your pain. I am from Texas and we cannot take the boards here. This is because 1) they didn't get their clearance to operate here 2) The ADN program with PN component only had a conditional approval (per state board of Missouri). $1000.00 is such an insult that they offer you to withdraw.

Think about how much you have lost if you were on the job during the time you spent at Chamberlain. What a shame. I would advise you to seek legal assistance on the issue.

Anyone considering doing the online program at Chamberlain should please RRRUUUUNNNNN the other direction. This school is trouble. You can send me personal email and I will tell you the hell I've been through with them. It is horrifying!!!!!!

I remember first learning about Chamberlain (Deaconess) several years ago (I believe 2002) and being very impressed with the program. I distinctly remember that out of state students had the option to have arranged clinicals near their home or they could make periodic trips to the campus area to complete the clinical requirements. I jumped up and down because I saw this program as a viable solution for me. How unfortunate things have turned out. Blatant breach of contract and breach of business ethics. I hope everyone who has sued, prevails. One thousand dollars does not begin to cover the losses involved for those caught up in this. I hope everyone is able to pick up the pieces and complete nursing school elsewhere.

labrador4122, RN

Specializes in Tele.

that school is way too expensive.

I would not even to the RN-BSN program there.

my classmate is doing that program there now--- she thinks that it will be a shorter program than our state university, but it's the same thing, except for the $$$

I want to keep my money I make as an RN in my pockets!!

Pixie.RN, MSN, RN, EMT-P

Specializes in EMS, ED, Trauma, CNE, CEN, CPEN, TCRN.

That's why there are many schools out there -- it's not one size fits all. I am glad you are having so much success with your state school, as you've mentioned previously. :)

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