CRNAs in Florida to require anesthesiologist supervision - page 4

I just read in a magazine about a House bill being passed that mandates that CRNAs in that state must now be supervised by anesthesiologists. If this passes the senate, wouldn't this be the end of... Read More

  1. by   Maxs
    This has been on the Florida Association of Nurse Anesthist Websites:
    "The full Florida House passed HB 629 today 4/22 on a vote of 99-13 without ANY debate. Although we lost the vote in the House, the Senate has yet to hear the bill in committee. It is still imperative that Floridians contact their Senators and let them know the effect this bill with have nursing practice.

    WHAT CRNAs NEED TO DO NOW:


    1. Call, write and/or email members of the Senate and ask them to NOT to support SB 1452

    2. Get a physician to call, write or email members of the Senate and ask them to "Vote No" on SB 1452. Please make sure that copies of these letters are faxed to Jim Linn at 850-224-1600."

    I highly recommend that you visit the link below and read more about the Ortiz case if you haven't.

    http://www.fana.org/default.html
    Last edit by Maxs on May 4, '05
  2. by   sproutsfriend
    The MDAs on the Student Doctor Net are providing the e-mail addresses of the Florida legislators hoping that their faithful will pressure them into passing the bill. Those idiots don't realize that many of us monitor their threads and will use the e-mail addresses to defeat the bill. Invest a little time in a broadcast e-mail to those legislators. Here is the link
    http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=197770
  3. by   AWDC
    Quote from sproutsfriend
    Those idiots...[/url]
    Wow... real professional.
  4. by   Tony35NYC
    Quote from sproutsfriend
    The MDAs on the Student Doctor Net are providing the e-mail addresses of the Florida legislators hoping that their faithful will pressure them into passing the bill. Those idiots don't realize that many of us monitor their threads and will use the e-mail addresses to defeat the bill. Invest a little time in a broadcast e-mail to those legislators. Here is the link
    http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=197770

    Very good! I just e-mailed them a very nice letter.
  5. by   sonessrna
    Quote from AWDC
    Wow... real professional.
    I have a question...how professional are the professional medical doctors and students on the student doctor forum when referring to nurse anesthetists....I think we are much more professional here. What do you think? :angryfire


    WRITE THE FLORIDA LEGISLATORS.
  6. by   jwk
    Quote from sproutsfriend
    The MDAs on the Student Doctor Net are providing the e-mail addresses of the Florida legislators hoping that their faithful will pressure them into passing the bill. Those idiots don't realize that many of us monitor their threads and will use the e-mail addresses to defeat the bill. Invest a little time in a broadcast e-mail to those legislators. Here is the link
    http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=197770
    You think those are top-secret email addresses or something, only available on SDN?
  7. by   Laughing Gas
    Quote from jwk
    You think those are top-secret email addresses or something, only available on SDN?
    Lighten up. If you can't find something useful to say, then keep it to yourself.
  8. by   deepz
    Quote from AWDC
    Wow... real professional.

    You may be forgetting where you are, young med student. This is a CRNA board. American anesthesia is a highly politicized arena. Perhaps you'd be well advised to gain a broader perspective before offering us your neophyte opinions, especially as to what constitutes professionalism.

    deepz
  9. by   AWDC
    Quote from deepz
    You may be forgetting where you are, young med student. This is a CRNA board. American anesthesia is a highly politicized arena. Perhaps you'd be well advised to gain a broader perspective before offering us your neophyte opinions, especially as to what constitutes professionalism.

    deepz
    If your peers qualifies that remark ("those idiots") as within the boundaries of professionalism, I'll yield. Hey, I even agree there are unprofessional behaviors on the SDN forum but I haven't seen a post where CRNAs were called idiots. And if I came across one, I'll probably have the same reaction as I did over here.
  10. by   Sheri257
    I wonder what's up with the political climate in Florida, and why the ASA seems to have so much clout there. I'm from Louisiana and that's a very corrupt, old ole boy state if there ever was one. Yet the Louisiana CRNA's were able to not only defeat AA legislation but, simultaneously pass a bill banning AA's there which, to me, is a miracle. So, it makes me wonder what's going on with the Florida CRNA organization. Are they just not doing their job?

    :uhoh21:
    Last edit by Sheri257 on May 8, '05
  11. by   Sheri257
    Quote from AWDC
    If your peers qualifies that remark ("those idiots") as within the boundaries of professionalism, I'll yield. Hey, I even agree there are unprofessional behaviors on the SDN forum but I haven't seen a post where CRNAs were called idiots. And if I came across one, I'll probably have the same reaction as I did over here.
    Don't take it personally. If you're not blindly pro-CRNA on this board, and even consider weighing both sides of the issue, you'll get slammed. And ... you'll be called a neophyte or, in my case, a lowly nursing student (beat you to it deepz ) ... whatever. Professionalism? :chuckle

    What's interesting is that if you called someone an "idiot" or other names in another forum on this board, you would automatically smacked down by the moderators and, even, banned from the board all together. I've personally seen this many times. But CRNA section seems to have more of an exemption from the board rules, which specifically ban name calling. Go figure.

    Last edit by Sheri257 on May 8, '05
  12. by   jwk
    Quote from lizz
    I wonder what's up with the political climate in Florida, and why the ASA seems to have so much clout there. I'm from Louisiana and that's a very corrupt, old ole boy state if there ever was one. Yet the Louisiana CRNA's were able to not only defeat AA legislation but, simultaneously pass a bill banning AA's there which, to me, is a miracle. So, it makes me wonder what's going on with the Florida CRNA organization. Are they just not doing their job?

    :uhoh21:
    What's up in Florida is that legislators realized they were flat-out lied to by the nurse anesthesia lobbying forces during the years it took to get AA legislation passed. Much of the material presented to them about AA's was simply false. It's one thing to present an opinion when trying to sway someone to your way of thinking. It's an entirely different thing to present something as fact when you know that it's not.

    The same tactics were used in Louisiana. But hey, governors change, legislators change. All it takes is another bill to erase the mistakes of last year.
  13. by   Sheri257
    Quote from jwk
    What's up in Florida is that legislators realized they were flat-out lied to by the nurse anesthesia lobbying forces during the years it took to get AA legislation passed. Much of the material presented to them about AA's was simply false. It's one thing to present an opinion when trying to sway someone to your way of thinking. It's an entirely different thing to present something as fact when you know that it's not.

    The same tactics were used in Louisiana. But hey, governors change, legislators change. All it takes is another bill to erase the mistakes of last year.
    Nah. That can't be it. What you're saying is that "lies" worked in one campaign while "lies" didn't work in another. If both organizations "lied," that doesn't account for the dramatically different results in each campaign. If it was that simple, then the Lousiana CRNA's would have lost too. Instead, they won. There has to be more to it than that.

    Last edit by Sheri257 on May 8, '05

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