Future CNMs - page 8
Just thought it would be kind of nice to get a little chat going. I know there are a couple of us who are CNM wannabes buthave worries too. My biggest concern is malpractice insurance. Hopefully... Read More
Sep 11, '05Occupation: Labor & Delivery Specialty: 4 year(s) of experience in L&D, Research, Midwifery Student ; From: US ; Joined: Dec '02; Posts: 149; Likes: 19Hi!
I'm a senior BSN student who is a nurse partner in a high risk L&D unit. I LOVE it there, but recently went to an AWHONN conference and learned about the excessive use of Pitocin, C-sections, and this speaker also spoke on natural births and other interesting facts about current L&D practices. It was so enlightening, that it made me want to look into a CNM position. I've asked nurses and doctors on my unit, and none seem to have a favorable opinion of nurse wives, like it is non-scientifc based profession or not respectable. Has anyone else come across this? Where can CNM work? In hospitals? I'm really interested in working in hospitals where I can give mothers another option of delivering or at least allow them to know about all their choices instead of automatically starting them on Pitocin and giving them an epidural. I know there are midwives that work at a birthing center in our area, but not sure where else they can work. Would it be better to go the FNP/CNM route for more accessability to hospitals?
Sorry for all the questions, but I'm just starting to resarch all of this. Any help/advice is appreciated!
Sep 16, '05Joined: Jun '04; Posts: 568; Likes: 186Hi all:
Just wanted to share my story on my progress with my CNM goal.
I am on a straight line, tunnelled-vision road to being a midwife/woman's NP. I just graduated BSN and started the CNM course part-time, so I needed an RN job to get my experience under my belt. Everyone had said L&D, but i couldn't face the intervention I had seen at hospitals. I am literally nauseaus when I think about how liberally pitocin is being used at hospitals. So I was about to take an ICU position, when recently, I found a hospital with a birthing center. It's a full range L&D, and includes very high risk births (nurses have to be oriented to ICU before they start.) Nurses circulate from working with midwives and postpartum in the birthing center, to the "actual L&Ds", to scrubbing for the OR. Manager told me I prefer, I could spend the majority of time at the birth center, with mandatory minimal time circulating at the other areas. So, I said, are you kidding me? and I signed up.
I had thought it was not possible to work as RN at a birthing center, and now I think this is even better, because I also get to learn to the perimeters of high risk pregnancies as well, which I believe is important part of being a midwife.
I can't wait to start.
Anyone else thinking about working in birthing centers for your RN experience?
Sep 16, '05Occupation: L&D Joined: Nov '01; Posts: 295; Likes: 10It sounds like you have found the PERFECT place to get your experience - very well-rounded in care. I've worked the gambit from birth center to Level III, and everywhere in between. I'm grateful for all the experience as it brings a different perspective to my care. I'm still not in a life situation to do midwifery, as my kids still need my care for about 14 more years, but I would like to do a seminar at The Farm with Ms. Gaskin and re-energize for my labor support. Someday....
Sep 16, '05Joined: Jun '04; Posts: 568; Likes: 186Quote from RNKittyThe Farm is definitely of my list. So is the Zita West clinic in England. You sound like you have a lot of knowledged and experience tucked under belt already. I'm a baby by comparison. I had a whole lifetime - was a photographer, had a kid - before I decided to get into midwifery and took the first step to in nursing. So far, so good - still going strong. When I am involved in women's health and care, I feel as if this where I was meant to be.It sounds like you have found the PERFECT place to get your experience - very well-rounded in care. I've worked the gambit from birth center to Level III, and everywhere in between. I'm grateful for all the experience as it brings a different perspective to my care. I'm still not in a life situation to do midwifery, as my kids still need my care for about 14 more years, but I would like to do a seminar at The Farm with Ms. Gaskin and re-energize for my labor support. Someday....Last edit by epiphany on Sep 16, '05 : Reason: grammar
Sep 16, '05Occupation: RN Specialty: Pediatric/Adolescent, Med-Surg, NP to be ; From: US ; Joined: Sep '05; Posts: 3,573; Likes: 3,209Hi, I just joined today, and was excited to find this section. I'm just starting pre-req's toward an R.N., but my dream is to be a nurse midwife! Unlike others in this thread who decided midwifery was their calling after the birth of their child(ren), I have not had children, yet never the less have been very impressed with the nurse midwife profession. I'm hoping to practice nurse-midwifery in Pittsburgh, PA. If there are any other midwifes on here (or midwife hopefuls) in PA I'd love to here about the legal climate, how easy it is to find work, etc.
Sep 16, '05Joined: May '05; Posts: 263; Likes: 11[QUOTE=ragingmomster]And so it goes on...
I have planned to attend East Carolina University for my MSN/CNM. I looked at the Emory FNP/CNM program but decided against it, since I am really only interested in women's health. I know Emory has a CNM program also but I have other stuff pushing me toward ECU.
I just wanted to say that overall I received an EXCELLENT education from East Carolina University. Yes, it is a tough program and I had to make quite a few sacrifices. But tuition was the CHEAPEST (I got instate rates, about $120 a credit hour and none of those fees I had to pay for my daughter who also went there). Faculty is great to work with. I did have my own problems (switched clinical sites because the only thing I was doing was preterm labor and VERY high risk pregnancies, which I can do at my own job as a labor nurse). And because the courses were internet, I could still work full time until the last semester of school (had to do integration which is pretty much full time hours).
I love the midwifery model of care! Patients are informed and make their own choices; epidurals are OK with me! I hope to start working as a CNM in December with a great group of docs, some of them have known me since I was wet behind the ears!
Midwifery care is NOT always "natural"... my philosophy is "non intervention in the absence of complications". The goal is a satisfying birth experience for the family, a healthy mom and baby, and a family who feels that they called the shots.
Oct 29, '05Joined: Oct '05; Posts: 9I am completing my CNM degree at the University of Utah this fall. The Univ of Utah offers a dual degree of NMW/WHNP, but also has an FNP program, and acute care NP, Neonatal NP, nurse educator, ect. They will tailor your degrees to what you want.
I had applied to OHSU 2 yrs ago and did not even get a reply letter from them after filling out their whole application and references, ect. I felt it quite rude.
I will complete my WHNP hours after finishing the CNM as a post masters student. So this school will work with you if you need to finish one to begin working again.
Nov 2, '05Occupation: Labor & Delivery Specialty: 6 year(s) of experience ; Joined: Oct '05; Posts: 15I am currently finishing my BSN and will graduate in May. I have been a L&D nurse for 5years and worked as a nurse tech for 2 years in the nursery, but my dream has always been to be a CNM. I have looked into several schools and the Frontier school sounds good, but the CNM's that I have asked to precept me are a little apprehensive about the time and requirements. Has anyone gone through that program or know of anyone who has? I would like to talk to someone before I really push my CNM's to precept me. I have to make a decision soon because the other school I am leaning towards is Emory and I think I have to have my application in by January 15th. Plus it cost over $13,000 a semester to go to Emory and that is before you buy the first book. Frontier is only like $5190. Look forward to hearing from you!
Nov 3, '05Joined: Aug '05; Posts: 144; Likes: 23Midwife2b:
I am very interested in attending ECU's program. I have not yet graduated from my ADN program (will grad in May), but will be starting the RN to BSN right away next fall and hopefully after that (and some experience in L&D) will start the part-time MSN CNM program. I elected not to do the RN to MSN program because I want to make sure I have an out if I change my mind at some point down the road. It is nice to see another CNM hopeful who isn't completely opposed to interventions. I have encountered a lot of people who seem to think all midwives are all about home and water births (which I have no problem with), but that isn't really where I see myself. I gave birth to my son in a hospital with a CNM attending and had an epidural (which she neither encouraged or discouraged me to get), with a lot of the other aspects of CNM care in place, she was there through every stage of pushing (which wasn't long in my case, only 14 minutes) and performed perineal massage and in general, made me feel great about the delivery process. My only real concerns about this career choice have been the issue of where I might find a job because I don't see myself ever setting up shop in a birthing center (unless it is one within a hospital).
Nov 4, '05Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 38,756; Likes: 16,288I wish all the aspiring midwives the best of luck in your pursuits. It is, to me, the noblest of professions. Best wishes to each of you.
Nov 10, '05Joined: Nov '05; Posts: 2i am so happy to find other women that are just excited as i am about becoming mw. as you can see by my name i aspire to be a future midwife. i've known that it was my calling and my destiny since i did a project on the process of childbirth in 8th grade! i have just applied to nursing school and all i want for christmas is an acceptance letter! i am 21 now and on my way to fill the shoes that i was placed here for. good luck to all of you past, present, and future mw's.
Nov 10, '05Joined: Nov '05; Posts: 2am so happy to find other women that are just excited as i am about becoming mw. as you can see by my name i aspire to be a future midwife. i've known that it was my calling and my destiny since i did a project on the process of childbirth in 8th grade! i have just applied to nursing school and all i want for christmas is an acceptance letter! i am 21 now and on my way to fill the shoes that i was placed here for. god bless to all of you past, present, and future mw's.
Oct 23, '09Occupation: staff RN Specialty: 2 year(s) of experience in labor and delivery ; From: US ; Joined: Oct '09; Posts: 1I know EXACTLY what you mean! i haven't had babies yet... but i'm really worried that i'm going to be a complete wimp when the time comes! yikes!!!!!