Acclerated BSN programs in CA

nursinguy · Mar 16, 2007

This is simply not true. The workload and amount of class time is the SAME for both the accelerated/ELM program and the regular BSN program. I can't figure out how you arrived at your numbers, but in any case, it doesn't matter because they aren't factual.
So if you're looking at entering the accelerated program at Sac State, or you're a nurse concerned that these students aren't receiving an adequate education, rest assured that the education is the same (just compressed into a smaller amount of time).

If you condense the regular class hours over the reg semester into 16 weeks for summer 2006 you get aprox 40 hours a week of class time. So the numbers for summer are correct or they cut down the program for ELM.

BonnieSc · Mar 16, 2007

(I don't know why I'm doing this... I guess because I dislike misinformation and rumor...)

The regular class hours if you take first and second semester together amount to approximately 22 hours per week. I don't know how long the summer term is, but the regular semester is also 16 weeks, so if the summer term is 16 weeks it's the same amount of time. They have not cut down the program in any way. They couldn't keep their accreditation if they did!

The accelerated bachelor's / ELM program is challenging, and there aren't many long breaks, but it is definitely doable--as, I'm sure, the many students currently in the program who will graduate at the end of the summer can tell you.

nursinguy · Mar 16, 2007

(I don't know why I'm doing this... I guess because I dislike misinformation and rumor...)
The regular class hours if you take first and second semester together amount to approximately 22 hours per week. I don't know how long the summer term is, but the regular semester is also 16 weeks, so if the summer term is 16 weeks it's the same amount of time. They have not cut down the program in any way. They couldn't keep their accreditation if they did!
The accelerated bachelor's / ELM program is challenging, and there aren't many long breaks, but it is definitely doable--as, I'm sure, the many students currently in the program who will graduate at the end of the summer can tell you.

My mistake, summer I believe is about 9-10 weeks so that is why I aprox around 40 hours a week of class time for summer.

nursinguy · Mar 23, 2007

(I don't know why I'm doing this... I guess because I dislike misinformation and rumor...)
The regular class hours if you take first and second semester together amount to approximately 22 hours per week. I don't know how long the summer term is, but the regular semester is also 16 weeks, so if the summer term is 16 weeks it's the same amount of time. They have not cut down the program in any way. They couldn't keep their accreditation if they did!
The accelerated bachelor's / ELM program is challenging, and there aren't many long breaks, but it is definitely doable--as, I'm sure, the many students currently in the program who will graduate at the end of the summer can tell you.

I talked to a regular student who joined the ELM people last summer because their was room, she said that the program was cut in class time and in normal busywork but not in clinical hours. So who ever is telling you other wise in Bsing you.

BonnieSc · Mar 25, 2007

Um, the nursing faculty who are teaching the classes? Apparently this rumor persists among the current ELM students despite repeated attempts by the professors to explain that it isn't true. The school isn't about to endanger its accreditation by not delivering the nursing program it has agreed to deliver. Nursing student rumors and opinions are notoriously non-trustworthy.

nursinguy · Mar 25, 2007

Um, the nursing faculty who are teaching the classes? Apparently this rumor persists among the current ELM students despite repeated attempts by the professors to explain that it isn't true. The school isn't about to endanger its accreditation by not delivering the nursing program it has agreed to deliver. Nursing student rumors and opinions are notoriously non-trustworthy.

Rumors it is not. I have confirmed it through several ELM and regular students who actually took n12 with the ELM students. No they will not lose accreditation by cutting out nonclinical requirments. This will make it easyer for ELM students, there is no logical way they can complete all the regular requirments that BSN students do in 3 years in 14 months. It simply isn't possible.

BonnieSc · Mar 26, 2007

This is silly, and I'm going to drop it. The faculty are, after all, the ones who teach the course each time, as opposed to students who take it once (unless they should fail, of course).

FuSoYa · Apr 3, 2007

(my peers will back me up when I say this...)

I'm about to graduate from Mount St. Mary's College's accelerated BSN program. All I have to say is stay away from MSMC. The program director who was in charge for the past 12 years went on sabatical this past year, so we've been taken care of by a new director who really doesn't know what she's doing. And I heard several times that the previous director isn't coming back. Not only that, but it's a private school, and the one year tuition will run you over $40,000.

Kaiser offered ~20 students a $25,000 scholarship to work for them for 2 years. We graduate in about 5 weeks and the majority of the scholarship recipients are interviewing elsewhere, a few have already accepted jobs elsewhere.

Basically there were a lot of unfulfilled promises. I have a B.S. in biological sciences and I'd rather go through that again than take another year of MSMC.

The ONLY good thing is that it's over in 12 months, otherwise look somewhere else.

kcmom · Jul 2, 2009

Recent BSN graduates (2009) from an Accelerated program at another college in Southern California who received a Kaiser Forgivable Loan are NOT being offered fulltime RN positions almost 2 months post graduation per agreement. BSN + RN + Kaiser = nada Don't have a definitive response regarding repayment obligations yet.

cd_y · Jul 2, 2009

It looks like there are a lot of old posts out there about Accelerated BSN Programs. I would encourage those of you who are applying to be at your best. They are, after all, highly competitive and challenging.

You are required to have the basic BS or BA requirements already met prior to going into an accelerated program. The bulk of the material is nursing focused only, as opposed to other BSN programs. Perseverance, discipline, intelligence, creativity and a desire to learn would be more accurate "crutches" that helped me excel through my program.

I completed my MSMC program in May of 2008 and practice nursing in LA. I found the MSMC program to be challenging and frustrating at the same time-as all nursing programs tend to be. Any good program should challenge you to adapt and overcome. It's what we do in real life nursing on a daily basis!

kcmom · Jul 2, 2009

The Accelerated BSN program at CSUSM is highly competitive. You must have another BS degree before being accepted. The rigorous requirements involved 2 years work for our daughter straight through. During the last year of the program the on location clinical experiences varied widely regarding time, dates and location. She had a flexible part time job (25-30 hours per week) that adapted to her changing schedule which worked out quite well until she quit (after 4 years) just a couple weeks before graduation to study fulltime for the NCLEX. She took that 1 month after graduation and passed.

It's quite common in online posts to have misspellings particularly when a spell checker is not included. Yes it is important to learn to spell correctly which includes knowing when to look something up. This is a skill that can be practiced and perfected. It also requires an eye for detail. I'm a computer geek by trade with an MBA and I continue to see spelling errors (particularly in online posts) by others in my line of work with similar credentials. Sometimes these are a result of late night posts, sometimes by someone who doesn't know the correct spelling of a word, or possibly dyslexia, and sometimes by a person who is intent on just getting their message out and they may use TLAs, smilies, or other cryptic wording to get their point across. I've learned over the years to be more accepting of online posts than of email and/or letters. These days it doesn't necessarily mean that the poster can't spell. Remember that to make the right impression regarding your abilities and intelligence it is always best to take the time to spell properly. [Yes, I just corrected the spelling in the title of this thread although it only shows on my post.]

cd_y · Jul 3, 2009

There is actually a spell check available on this particular allnurses.com program. One only needs to use it. I am not such a perfectionist to say that people should not make spelling mistakes, but I saw "there" being replaced with "their" etc. and it's hard to overlook when my first degree was in English Literature. You should have a basic knowledge of reading and writing if you are to undertake an accelerated program. That was my point. No disrespect to the miss-spellers out there.