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I was eligible to sit for the nclex for California.

Wow.. so I took my exam this September, went the distance all 265 questions. Unfortunately I didn't pass. Got my results and "near passing standard" all across the board so the news of failure basically tore me apart.

Now what makes it worse is after submitting the reapplication form and waiting for four weeks for a reply from the board, I get a letter today stating

:::: The Board has determined that the program you completed in the Philippines is not equivalent to the minimum requirements for licensure set forth in California Code Section 1426(d).

You may be able to view Section 1426 (d) and all other codes of the California Code of Regulations by going to our website at: www.rn.ca.gov. Once in the website there will be 'Tabs' at the top of the screen. Go to Regulations then to Nursing Practice Act and finally to California Code of Regulations.

California Code of Regulations Section 1426(d) states that theory and clinical practice shall be concurrent. The documents received state that some of the training was completed several semesters after the theory classes. ::::::

I email the evaluator in charge of my application and she explains ::::

You have options and that is to apply to the LVN Board or in another RN Board in a different state or go for your master's degree in nursing but in California you are not qualified as a RN without the Master's degree.

According to the RLE and the school's curriculum you should have completed the scrubs in NCM 101 and 102 but they were completed in NCM 104, 105 and 103. I am enclosing a copy of the letter that was sent to you yesterday.

I'm angry and sad at the same time. How is it possible that I was eligible to take the nclex the first time I applied and not eligible to retake now? I went from meeting the requirements of an RN to now meeting the requirements of an LVN. How is this possible?

They are saying I'm ineligible based on the dates of completion of my cases. The school requires 5 major, 5 minor, 5 assisted delivery, 5 actual delivery, and 5 cord dressing clinical cases which I completed or else I wouldn't have been able to graduate. All of a sudden Ca board is being technical about the completion dates of these cases. The school is well aware of the fact that completion of these cases is impossible to be concurrent with the theoretical classes. It is not always guaranteed that students will complete the needed cases in concurrent with the theoretical because there are times when there aren't any patients in the hospitals that we are rotated in. It is for this reason that the school allows completion of the needed cases through out the following semesters. We took the theoretical classes before we were allowed to go on our clinicals but the lack of patients made it difficult to complete those 5 cases during that semester. That's why some of my cases were completed one or two semesters after the theory classes.

Am I understanding this correctly? I thought all that matters was that my cases were complete regardless if it was completed in concurrent/along with theoretical or after theoretical. I learned what I was suppose to learn it just so happen that exposure to the actual thing came a semester later.

So now they are saying I can't sit for the nclex in California and I need to complete a masters degree to be qualified as an Rn in California. Is this possible? I went to school graduated with a BSN and in the end I'm told that I only qualify to be a LVN after submitting a reapplication for nclex. .

Clarification would be nice and I would appreciate any advice. This just makes me question if nursing is even the right fit for me cause it's been obstacles after obstacles.

is anybody here planning to study in order to make up the deficiencies?? i cannot find schools that allow us to take only the subjects that we are deficient in. because I would rather want to enroll in the list of accredited schools that they gave us and complete the deficiencies and then be eligible to take the NCLEX-RN. i guess if it is only the deficiencies that we need to complete, it would not take us that long to finish it.

Hi, jgiovann. I tried to inquire for the deficiencies that the BON is requiring right now but the schools are telling me the same thing. You have to take the whole nursing program. I inquire at sacstate they told me to leave my number and they will call me if there are professors who's willing to do it. Because its their first time if ever they will offer it but its still under negotiation i think. The other option from sacstate is to take LVN licensure then enroll into 30 units RN program. It's like continuing education for LVN's. I just don't understand why the BON gave us the lists of schools while those schools are not accepting applicants for taking 3 subjects only.

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they offer individual courses at sfsu :p a few of us are planning on enrolling there next sem.

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Wow, I didn't see this part of the website had this, but nice to know there is!

I'm asking for a friend I met a few years ago, when I was in the country as a tourist for about 2 weeks, I really enjoyed our times there.

I was chatting with her the other day.

Is the concern for those having to re-take those certain classes mess up your possible job hiring here in the States as a new grad? I take it that the majority of the posters are looking for a new grad program?

Due to a family emergency, she had to postpone her nursing plans and was shelved for a bit.

As you know, most CA new grad programs are restricted to those who have graduated within the last 12 months, some with zero to less than 12 months of RN experience.

She has her BSN now, but feels if she has to is she going to even tougher time to get a job here with no experience as a new grad having to re-enter school again?

When the clock start if she's going to have to re-take some classes?

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@ bsnwnab yeah. its pretty annoying. the hoops they make us go through. so... do you know anyone who has received eligibility yet?

The last person I knew that got her ATT with no problem at all, breezed through it basically and took less than a month to get her ATT was back in march or april 2011. I heard that the board starting being strict or started implementing rules/requirements around August of 2011.

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they offer individual courses at sfsu :p a few of us are planning on enrolling there next sem.

where does it say that on their website? can you give me the link? thanks:)

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@bsnwnab you can contact them, and tell them about your situation. i emailed them. they told me i can enroll for fall this year. ;) i read about it here first from a guy with the username zhapper. he lives in the bay area too. so i sent him a private mesage, and he gave me some information. were still in the process of planning things. ;)

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lucky.. tsk. lol

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Wow, I didn't see this part of the website had this, but nice to know there is!

I'm asking for a friend I met a few years ago, when I was in the country as a tourist for about 2 weeks, I really enjoyed our times there.

I was chatting with her the other day.

Is the concern for those having to re-take those certain classes mess up your possible job hiring here in the States as a new grad? I take it that the majority of the posters are looking for a new grad program?

Due to a family emergency, she had to postpone her nursing plans and was shelved for a bit.

As you know, most CA new grad programs are restricted to those who have graduated within the last 12 months, some with zero to less than 12 months of RN experience.

She has her BSN now, but feels if she has to is she going to even tougher time to get a job here with no experience as a new grad having to re-enter school again?

When the clock start if she's going to have to re-take some classes?

yeah, she probably will have to retake some classes.

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the Board of Registered Nursing has completed an evaluation of your application. Based on the documents that were submitted, it has been determined that the program you completed in the Philippines does not meet the requirements for licensure as a Registered Nurse in California.

California Code of Regulations section 1426(d) states that theory and clinical practice shall be concurrent and based on the information submitted, this requirement was not met. When we reviewed the clinical cases your scrubs were not taken concurrently with theory instruction and the did not follow the Related Learning Summary from school. Your theory and scrubs should have been completed in NCM 201 and 202 but were done in NCM 203, 204 and some in 205.

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@bsnwnab you can contact them, and tell them about your situation. i emailed them. they told me i can enroll for fall this year. ;) i read about it here first from a guy with the username zhapper. he lives in the bay area too. so i sent him a private mesage, and he gave me some information. were still in the process of planning things. ;)

do you know if how long would it take for us to finish our deficiencies (OB and Med Surg)?

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ob and med surge will take us 8 months total to complete. they let you take one class per sem. 6 units each. so thats 2 semesters for us. and a lot of money. yeaaahboi.

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ob and med surge will take us 8 months total to complete. they let you take one class per sem. 6 units each. so thats 2 semesters for us. and a lot of money. yeaaahboi.

is the enrollment still ongoing? i would want to enroll but the school is very far from us.

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