Biol 189 @ Ccsn

Did anyone take 189(Lecture) ? Is it possible to pass this class?

I didn't take this class, but I must use common sense and tell you that it is possible to pass it. If you have heard from people telling you, "oh my god, don't take that professor.. you will not pass!" -- you most likely received your information from a student who did poorly in the class (most likely due to lack of studying).

I will admit that there are some horrible professors out there (I've had a few horrible professors); however, as long as you study your a** off, you will most likely do well. And almost everyone I have spoken to who has went to CCSN has said that it is quite easy to do well in all of your pre-nursing classes, as long as you try.

I too have common sense, I do try, and I am currently a 4.0 student. Perhaps I should have elaborated re; my inquiry: Today was my first day of class with the instructor, who stated that on avg. 20% of the class will pass and most will barely do so. He stated that he will teach the class as it is meant to be, unlike other instructors who try to appease prospective nursing students. He also stated that without outside tutoring it is "Impossible for Anyone" to pass his class.

I too have common sense, I do try, and I am currently a 4.0 student. Perhaps I should have elaborated re; my inquiry: Today was my first day of class with the instructor, who stated that on avg. 20% of the class will pass and most will barely do so. He stated that he will teach the class as it is meant to be, unlike other instructors who try to appease prospective nursing students. He also stated that without outside tutoring it is "Impossible for Anyone" to pass his class.

Sorry if I had implied that you don't try or didn't have common sense -- I wasn't trying to portray that. I was trying to say that my common sense would tell me that it is possible to pass a class. I've had professors at UNLV say similar things, but with a little hard work, I ended up with an 'A' or a 'B'. He most likely will be giving you difficult exams, but make sure you keep up on all of your readings and study your butt off. Or, if you don't think you will do well in his lecture, perhaps switching to another lecture teacher would be beneficial.

Goto http://www.ratemyprofessors.com and look up any CCSN professors. I just looked one up and most of the comments imply he is a tough teacher, but with a little hard work, it is possible to get an 'A'.

When a professor/instructor says something to the point where their students will fail if they don't pursue outside tutoring services, they are probably trying to scare you. If an instructor at the community college gives out that many failing grades every semester, administration will probably end up canning him. Considering he is still teaching, you must realize that he isn't that bad -- however, that doesn't mean one will skate by in his class like most community college courses.

however, that doesn't mean one will skate by in his class like most community college courses.

Hugh offense taken here. I have never "skated by" any of my community college courses. I have taken courses at CCSN and UNLV and they compare equally in quality and complexity.

Thank you Woogy. I definitely agree. Is it possible to flag a user, so you don't have to read their mean spirited comments? Aside from the occasional I usually get excellent advice on this site.

Thank you Woogy. I definitely agree. Is it possible to flag a user, so you don't have to read their mean spirited comments? Aside from the occasional I usually get excellent advice on this site.

I spent 2 years at a community college taking a wide-spectrum of courses (business, science, fine arts, humanities, etc.) and walked out with a 4.0. Community college courses may not always be "easier" persay, but they are infested with grade inflation. This is why community colleges are referred to as a junior colleges. Community colleges are usually used to prepare students for the university level courses.

Talk to pre-nursing students at UNLV -- a majority of them take their A&P, microbiology, and chemistry classes at CCSN because they are far easier than UNLV. The content may not be easier but the overall grades are incredibly inflated. I am not saying community college is inferior to the university setting, but one must admit that they are easier to achieve a better grade.

In fact, my pre-nursing advisor had said she recommended taking BIO 251 (microbiology) at CCSN because most trasnfer students from CCSN come in with a 4.0, while the average student at UNLV usually acheives their pre-nursing classes with a B or B+ and the occasional A-'s and A's.

However, I decided to stick with my UNLV pre-nursing classes and not go to CCSN, and although I have a high G.P.A., almost every student I know that transferred from CCSN are coming in with 4.0 in their pre-nursing classes.

Think what you want to think, but the majority of community colleges are HEAVILY grade inflated.

One other thing -- ask a medical school what they think of community college classes (particularly pre-req's for med school -- bio, chem, organic chem, & physics). Medical school admission committies will tell you that if you decide to take the med school pre-req' at a community college, they expect nothing less than an 'A' because they are aware of the grade inflation at the CC level and the complexity of the course is usually than that at a community college level.

I have heard one of the instructors is tough and I've seen his past tests.

I have heard one of the instructors is tough and I've seen his past tests.

Hugh offense taken here. I have never "skated by" any of my community college coorifices. I have taken courses at CCSN and UNLV and they compare equally in quality and complexity.

Sistermike, I don't know what you have against CCSN but from your posts you are definitely insinuating that UNLV is much better but why? Not everyone can afford to go to University so why put those who aren't fortunate enough to do so down? CCSN has a very good reputation--now you go ask anyone in the health field. I am going to play it safe and assume that most posters on all"nurses".com are nurses, or nurse hopefuls, not pre-med doctors. I am a very smart student and by all means I didn't just arrive upon the grades I got. I find your posts very condescending. Do your research before posting your opinions. Nevada is one of the only states where the college courses at CCSN equivalate to those at NSC and UNLV which is why CCSN students can consider themselves lucky. Any graduating student with an Associates from CCSN is eligible to become a student in UNLV and that is not the case in many other states. Also just to let you know, it is not a "junior college" the Board of Regents along with CCSN are working to transform the "community" college into an actual "college" which will not just change the name to College of Southern Nevada but will allow for more funding and the addition of several Bachelor's programs. I am sure that many of the people at CCSN are capable and intelligent enough to get into UNLV but have husbands, wives, families, children and jobs they have to consider. Not everyone is in their early 20's with the time and money to be there.

Thank you Woogy. I definitely agree. Is it possible to flag a user, so you don't have to read their mean spirited comments? Aside from the occasional (Adam Henry) I usually get excellent advice on this site.

How ya doin' Checkmate? Just wanted to let you know that my friend struggled to figure out the instructor's style at first and by the time she figured it out was able to kick it into high gear and got an A overall.