Being Asked to Come in and Work as CNA...

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Wondering how many nurses out there get asked to come in and work on the floor as a CNA.. My employer does this quite often, they have even mandated nurses to come in and work as CNAs. My scheduler called me the other day and asked if I would come in and do a 12 tonight, 4 hours as a CNA and then my regular 8 as a nurse, I did not call her back for fear she would try to mandate me.. I have no interest in working overtime and I have even less interest to work as a CNA. And no, it's not because I think I am better than that or what not.. I have nothing but respect for CNAs, they have the hardest job in healthcare. It's been 12+ years since I worked as an aide and I put myself through school to be a nurse, not a CNA. If I had wanted to work as a CNA I would've saved myself from the student loans, stress, and hardwork..

Anywho, just wondering who else gets asked this and what your thoughts are..

Just because you didn't like what I said doesn't mean I was wrong, nor was my approach. I defy you to quote where I indicated that I know everything about you because I was once a student myself. Despite your insistence that you're not taking this personally, you clearly are or we wouldn't still be having this conversation, nor would you be reliant on repetitive, immature accusations to support your opinions.

If you are this easily irritated by someone on the internet, nursing will be one hell of a ride for you.

Please. All I'm doing is defending my posts . you should know that reading anything that is typed would have a sense of miscommunication all I'm doing is trying to reason why I have posted why I have posted my original post that you have quoted me on and you just ended up going far beyond the point .

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At the end of the day. When you sign anything on paper you have to be specific if you are either an RN, LPN, and CNA and not just a "nurse" so I honestly don't know why my username have to be apart of this post . and there is no lying if I'm not giving any professional advice .

Your username and any title you use therein is specified in AN's terms of service.

Just because you're not giving professional advice doesn't mean you're not lying if you say you're a nurse and you're really not. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Consult the laws theat deal with misuse of the term "nurse" as a professional title and you'll see no such caveat, nor will you see it in the terms of service here on AN.

You've already indicated that you're a student nurse, yet you've stated multiple times on this thread that you are a nurse AND you have a username that uses that title. And now you want to try to claim that you're not lying based on a technicality? That attitude doesn't belong in a professional setting at all, much less in nursing.

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To chime in on your username; FYI, "nurse" is a protected title in most states; to call yourself "nurse" in your title means that you have prepared studied, and are licensed as a nurse whether it be LPN or RN.

Until your have completed your studies and to comply with TOS, you can always change your name to imply student; by revising your user name by adding the student name to suffice.

Thanks for the reinforcement, Lady Free, but I have a funny feeling we're beating a dead horse on this one. Looks like a case for the mods.

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I'm an LPN... My question is: if you're an LPN, but working in the roll as a CNA, if someone codes, etc., are you held to the standard of a CNA or LPN on that shift??
This question came up in my facility when I was an LPN. We contacted our BON questioning what we could and could not do if we were working in the CNA capacity. We were told if working as a 'CNA' we had to stay within their scope of practice. For example, Mrs J asks you for her PRN med (narc or not)...you could tell the nurse in charge of her care that Mrs J wanted it, but you could not admister the med to her. Anything that required a LPN or RN license was not allowed for you while you were working as a CNA (the LPN or RN working that shift in a CNA position).

In that facility, only LPN's and RN's are required to have CPR certs so the CNAs (the vast majority) did not have training in it and none regardless of having their CPR cert or not were allowed to initiate or assist in CPR (blew my mind..but I digress). If someone coded, LPN's or RN's working as CNA's for that time could assist with the code however the nurses working as 'nurses' that shift were in charge of the code.

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You know what seriously I am not going to be perceived as someone who is just a liar and some one who is just trying to be something of my passion. This obviously have taken the wrong turn from what I have originally posted and I was trying to make a point . I said I was a nurse due to self-encouragement and future that is why I have stated it couple of times you have re post my personal post on this forum and I have replied to that post. Every post you have made I make sure I repost so that I explain why . but the more I'm explaining my self the more it seem to be perceived as something else

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Please. All I'm doing is defending my posts . you should know that reading anything that is typed would have a sense of miscommunication all I'm doing is trying to reason why I have posted why I have posted my original post that you have quoted me on and you just ended up going far beyond the point .

As am I. My reply to your post had nothing personal in it against you. Your reply to me, however, was very defensive to the point of trying to equalize our opinions by denying the existence of "higher ups", minimizing the experience of actual nurses and accusing me of making personal assumptions about you when all I did was elaborate on the concept of overtime as a sign of compassion.

My point here is not to badger you, no matter how it may feel. My intention is to show you that in this profession and especially on this board, respectful, open debate is going to happen and it is important to remember your humility and try not to take things so personally. I may have some experience to tout, but I am always learning from those numerous nurses who have been doing this far, far longer than I. There is always something more to learn, and if you ever find yourself unreceptive to that, it's time to do something else with your life.

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You know what seriously I am not going to be perceived as someone who is just a liar and some one who is just trying to be something of my passion. This obviously have taken the wrong turn from what I have originally posted and I was trying to make a point . I said I was a nurse due to self-encouragement and future that is why I have stated it couple of times you have re post my personal post on this forum and I have replied to that post. Every post you have made I make sure I repost so that I explain why . but the more I'm explaining my self the more it seem to be perceived as something else

I'm well aware why you said it. You're far from the first or the last member of AN who will join and make this mistake. But you've been advised numerous times that it is not appropriate on this board and yet you still refuse to change it. That is where I--and likely many others who have worked for and attained that hard-earned license--take issue.

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Specializes in Acute Care, Rehab, Palliative.
This question came up in my facility when I was an LPN. We contacted our BON questioning what we could and could not do if we were working in the CNA capacity. We were told if working as a 'CNA' we had to stay within their scope of practice. For example, Mrs J asks you for her PRN med (narc or not)...you could tell the nurse in charge of her care that Mrs J wanted it, but you could not admister the med to her. Anything that required a LPN or RN license was not allowed for you while you were working as a CNA (the LPN or RN working that shift in a CNA position).

In that facility, only LPN's and RN's are required to have CPR certs so the CNAs (the vast majority) did not have training in it and none regardless of having their CPR cert or not were allowed to initiate or assist in CPR (blew my mind..but I digress). If someone coded, LPN's or RN's working as CNA's for that time could assist with the code however the nurses working as 'nurses' that shift were in charge of the code.

It will depend on where you are as well. When I am working as an aise I can still function as a nurse and pass meds if needed.

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Specializes in ICU / PCU / Telemetry / Oncology.

I have run out of popcorn!! Anyone have any to share?? :D

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Specializes in Transitional Nursing.
If CNA work--the nursing care that tends to the most basic needs of the patient--isn't grunt work, I don't know what is.

Grunt work is defined to be work that isn't important, and is exhausting and boring. I find it only to be exhausting, and I resent the connotation.

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Specializes in Psych ICU, addictions.

As the duties of the CNA and LVN are within my scope of nursing practice, I have no problem with coming in on occasion to fill in for the CNA/LVN...as long as I'm paid my RN rate. It's actually a nice change of pace to fill a different role.

While I know that I will be held to the standard of my highest license, I make sure they are aware that I am there primarily as the CNA/LVN, and that I can't be expected to be the CNA/LVN PLUS take on a RN patient load.

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Specializes in Psych ICU, addictions.
I'm well aware why you said it. You're far from the first or the last member of AN who will join and make this mistake. But you've been advised numerous times that it is not appropriate on this board and yet you still refuse to change it. That is where I--and likely many others who have worked for and attained that hard-earned license--take issue.

The issue of the member's username has been resolved and does not need further discussion in this thread. If any member has concerns about someone's username, please PM a staff member or post a thread in the Admin Help Desk, and we will address the matter.

Please redirect yourselves back to original topic.

Thank you.

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