Becoming a CRNA - From One Who Did It

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Looking over this bulletin board, I noticed that there were few CRNA's posting, and a large number of people interested in becoming CRNA's posting. There seem to be a lot of questions. I had a lot of help from others in becoming a CRNA, and this is a good chance to pay some of that back. I graduated from Newman University (Wichita, Kansas) just last August. For now, I'll try to answer some of the questions I've noticed are most commonly asked about becoming a CRNA, and what it is like when you are done. If anyone has other questions, I'll try to check this board every so often, and answer those questions, if I can.

First, if you are in school now, nursing or otherwise, its time to start working hard. Pay particular attention to your nursing and science classes. When considering applicants, most schools look not only at the overall GPA, but at the grades the applicant received in the science and nursing courses. Anesthesia school is tough, with heavy emphasis on science. They need a yardstick to determine whether an applicant can handle the heavy course load they will be required to take. Past performance is always a place they begin.

Look around, do some research on the various schools of Nurse Anesthesia. There is a great deal of variation in programs. For example, length of these programs range from 2 to 3 years. Narrow the possibilities down to two or three schools. Then, contact the Program Director or Advisor to find out what requirements you must meet to be accepted to the program. If you have a chance, talk with the Director, and find out what you can do to make yourself a more attractive applicant. While there is currently a shortage of nurse anesthetists, there is no shortage of applicants for the relatively few school seats each year. The competition is stiff, and you must make yourself as attractive as possible.

Every program that I am aware of requires at least one year of experience in an ICU. I am aware of no program that accepts ER, OR, or any other type experience. This may frustrate you, it may not seem fair, and it may not make sense, but trust me, there are good reasons for this requirement. Not all programs require adult ICU experience. One of my classmates' experience was in NICU. Check with the programs you intend to apply to about what specific experience they require.

Once you have applied and been accepted, get ready. Every anesthetist I have ever talked to has said that anesthesia school was the toughest, most demanding thing they had ever done. (The most stressful was taking boards, but that is another story.) My own life is a good example. Before becoming a nurse, I was in the US Army, and attended the Defense Language Institute to study Russian. This was a full year, total immersion program. It was not even half as tough as anesthesia school. Brush up on your anatomy, particularly the anatomy of the airway and nervous system. Know the autonomic nervous system as well as you can. Be ready to study, study, and study some more. Plan on at least two hours study time for every hour you spend in class.

Working while in full time anesthesia school is difficult, at best. Working full time is impossible. Don't try it, you will only harm yourself.

So, what is life as a CRNA like? That depends on where you work. I work for an anesthesia group with both Nurse anesthetists and anesthesiologists. My average work day begins between 6 and 6:30 am, and I work until anywhere from 3 pm to whenever (the longest day I have had was 19 hours). I do anesthesia for all kinds of cases, from simple general surgery to open heart surgery, vascular surgery, and neurological surgery. Nurse anesthetists perform anesthesia, pure and simple. I see my patients before the surgery, plan the anesthetic, and perform all phases of the anesthetic. I put in arterial lines, central lines, and Swan Ganz catheters. I am also able to do regional anesthesia (spinals, epidurals, and regional blocks), but the group where I work does few of these. The only kind of anesthesia I don't currently do is obstetric, because the group I work for does not do OB.

I think the average starting salary for a nurse anesthetist is $85,000 to $110,000 annually, not including benefits, which can be, and usually are substantial. Many places not only have the salary, but also pay overtime. (Do the math. It makes staying late a whole lot easier.) Someone on this board said that some CRNA's only earn $60,000. I am not aware of any full time position with a salary that low.

I am extremely satisified with my career choice. I love doing anesthesia. I find it fun, interesting, and challenging. I have more independence and more responsibility than any other advanced practice nurse I know.

As I said earlier, I'll be happy to answer any specific questions I can. I'd prefer those questions be posted here, so I don't have to repeatedly answer the same questions. Rest assured, you won't be the only one with that question.

Kevin McHugh, CRNA

I agree with Al bug, however, it seems with the # of quality applicants increasing that you will see less experienced RN's (

Agree with Albug. There are things that can be learned in the ICU environment that will be helpful when you are an SRNA. However, much of what you will learn will be new. It will be based on things you know from the ICU, but I suspect that one year's experience is enough to give you the foundation of knowledge to do well in school. If accepted, go. Don't miss an opportunity because you are concerned that you have insufficient experience. Obviously, the program director and others on the selections committee don't agree with you.

Kevin McHugh, CRNA

Hey Kevin, and nilepoc if out there, i'm new to this forum and A little help from friends would be nice. I just graduated with BSN in May of 2002 and have been working in the 2nd highest volume ER in the state (not level 1 but exceptionally busy!). BSN GPA 3.56 certified in pals, acls, bls, tncc, GRE poor but will retake after prep class. Yeah i know ICU experience is the way to go and i agree 100%, but i'm curious; If applications are due at the begining of the year (ie april) for the following year's class could i apply with 1 year ED experience and be currently working in ICU for remainder of year so that total experience at time of starting program would be 1 yr ED and 1yr SICU? I'm looking at Northeastern and interested in CRNA work. I have spoken to the director and he says that GRE's count a lot and that everyone applying has more experience than me! Should i even bother or wait until i definately have 1 year BEHIND me of ICU before wasting 50$ on application fee. Buy the way eventhough the program doesn't require it, should i bite the bullet and take an O-chem class to make my application more attractive? Last and final Q, because CRNA school is so difficult, do you think that being single without family unofficially weighs on the admission boards minds.

great site!

This is a great post! Thanks kmchugh for all the info. I thought it was especially great since Newman is my top choice of schools I'm applying to.

Thanks again!

I am new to this forum and find it very interesting. I am an "old-timer" CRNA and would like to offer a few thoughts. If I were applying again, I would take as many science type courses as possible. Biochemistry, physiology, pharmacology are some examples. It shows the admissions committee that you understand the importance of the sciences in the field. That fact that a CRNA applies science to hands-on clinical care makes us almost unique in nursing.

Be sure never to tell the admissions committee that you want to be a CRNA because you don't like patient care. That is the best part of anesthesia--patient care!

Welcome to the board yoga!

Brett

Hi Kevin and Yoga:

Could either of you please list the name of the site mentioned as "[email protected]"? I have tried to find it but also come up with gas companies and such. I can get to yahoo groups just fine, so it seems the trouble is in the other part.

An additional question as you all have the pragmatic experience we students lack: Do you ever find yourself getting bored with anesthesia? Is it tough being in a single room all day with not windows, which may be somewhat cold (operating rooms) doing the same thing for 8+ hours? Or, do I have it all wrong, and there is a lot of time in between the OR that you spend doing other things such as patient interaction, paperwork, etc.?

Thank you kindly for your input.

zzzzzgirl

zzzzgirl,

I can answer this one. Old gas passers is at http://www.oldgaspassers.com.

The catch is, you have to register, and you have to be a member of the AANA. So it is for CRNAs and SRNAs only.

I have had my wrist slapped (lightly) for bringing old gas passer up on this board before. But there really is a much different focus on that board. It is not a public forum like this. Much more focused on professional issues.

loisane crna

Gee, thanks RU!

Bored in anesthesia--yes and I love it when I am. I just finished a 9 hour case today. I was not bored when I couldn't intubate the patient. With some excellent assistance, luck and a lot of skill on my part, I was able to get the tube in. I was bored the rest of the case, when the vital signs never changed--just watched the surgery, talked with the nurses and surgeons and was happy that I was bored. Then at the end of the case, i was no longer bored when I had to extubate the patient. By the way, i do not work with any anesthesiologists, so I have to figure this all out myself.

Yoga

Yoga,

I want to add my welcome to the others you have received. It is great to hear that you are an independent CRNA.

I like the diversity of this board, I feel it is a strength. But it is a little light on the CRNA side. I think it can only be a good thing if some of us "seasoned" people can share our perspectives of nurse anesthesia with the "younger" crowd. So I welcome your voice.

I don't know about you, but when I went into anesthesia I wasn't very aware of some of the issues that were to face me. Now we have this great new information technology. This allows us to not only improve the situation for the next generation of CRNAs, but in so doing strengthen the profession of nurse anesthesia.

I have always worked ACT, but am a strong advocate of the importance of maintaing a place for independent practice. I benefit from hearing that perspective, too.

It's all about choices, and having lots of them is one of the things that makes nurse anesthesia so great.

As they say "Keep it real"!

loisane crna

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