Bathing Classmates and Other Personal Boundaries?

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I've read a few threads on this and honestly I am shocked. I was unaware that students had to practice anything on each other that was invasive or required them to wear any clothing besides scrubs or other professional attire. This concept did not exist for me until I read threads in which people spoke about these practices.

I do not think it is right for students to have to wear clothing that exposes them, even if it is "just" shorts/bathing suit/bra/sports bra/tank top. Nor do I think it is right for students to have to be examined or touched in any way by another student. If we're going to make it about why I personally don't like it, it is because I don't wear shorts other than when I swim, they are usually knee-length, and I don't swim very often (last time was 2-3 years ago). I don't like to expose my legs for various reasons and I don't want to have to purchase clothing to show off a body part that I don't ever show off, hence why I don't own that type of clothing.

In previous posts there were people to said it wasn't a big deal, and others who think students should have to because their predecessors had to (and they had to do much more to each other than just bathing- such as catheter insertion, breast/lady partsl exams, anal swabbing, etc.), and yet others say it is so that students can learn what it is like to be a patient. Many of these people are saying that those who take issue with it aren't cut out for nursing. This makes no sense to me.

Other than helping out your classmates by providing a body so they can practice and do their exam on, what benefit does this give you? You will make a friend in class who may or may not help you later? So the benefit here is teamwork? I find it highly unlikely that I will be working with the classmate after I graduate and I don't feel that it is my duty to let someone invade my personal space just because the school we are at doesn't use mannequins and real patients. A student is not the same thing as a licensed professional and I don't want inexperienced people touching me or using my body to practice things like injections or catheters or even bathing. Once they are licensed then I know I can trust that they are being professional and held responsible, until then they are no different than someone in my A&P class going for a biology degree.

None of this means I will have a problem with other people's bodies or caring for them. My own personal level of comfort for MY body does not mean I won't be able to do my job and do what I need to when caring for another person. My own body being exposed is not something that will help me when I am bathing a patient because I will never be bathed by a patient and I will never be unclothed in front of a patient.

It seems that people who went to school years ago had to do more to each other than the schools today and if you respond to this I would love to hear what years you went to school (your age is not important) and what your experience and opinions are.

P.S. This is not about a male/female thing, as I think either gender would bother me just as much.

Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
A very fair assessment. I agree with you that it may not have been a fair question in the first place, but that perhaps we can reflect upon it as a greater whole.

Thank you.

I hope so. The questioning of the status quo brought on by a greater diversity of people coming into the profession is a good thing, I think. I disagree with the "sit down and shut up" old school mentality given to students. Sometimes newcomers honestly point the profession in a new direction, if it's respectfully done.

Just another (unrelated) area is technology advances. Students complain that their instructors insist they shlep to the library to watch a film strip on x or y, with scheduling time in a resource room, driving, etc etc. to do something you could watch on youtube in 10 minutes. "Just because that's the way we do it" attitude of some instructors doesn't solve anything IMO. :twocents: :)

My God. You expect your patients to suck it up and accept every humiliating and undignified thing you want to do to them but you refuse to allow anything to be done to you? Why won't you try putting yourselves into their shoes? Why are you too good or too important to experience what they do? It's the only way you could ever understand what they're thinking when you have your hands all over their naked bodies.

Why can't you just suck it up and do it, cowards? No more "holier than thou" attitudes. No more considering yourselves better than normal humans.

Specializes in Advanced Practice, surgery.

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