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Azusa Pacific University ELM Program

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by sylvia66 sylvia66 (New) New Student

Has 4 years experience.

When I was seeking advice on ELM programs- I wish I had someone who gave me an honest opinion. So.... I want to be that person for any prospective nursing students. Azusa Pacific University was my first choice when looking for ELM programs. Little did I know how.. HORRID the program was. The program is COMPLETELY unorganized. The faculty offers minimal resources for struggling students. Expect to have missed BSN requirements- there have been multiple times hours were calculated incorrectly and we had to figure out how we would get the remaining clinical hours required by the board. I also hope you do not have a job, significant other, life- of any sort- because the schedule changes every week. Class times have changed mid semester. The clinical schedule is constantly changing and they expect you to be readily available. I guess-if you have no job or life this might be fine- but it will get frustrating eventually. 

 

If you have any questions regarding the program. please ask, I am happy to offer my honest viewpoint.

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vpetr002

Specializes in BA Psychology.

Hi Sylvia,

Thank you for sharing your experience. The chaos described is concerning. Could the constant changes in the schedule be associated with the pandemic? 

What other pros/cons do you have to share? And if you do not mind me asking, which campus are you attending as there may be differences in how each program is carried at the varying locations. So sorry to hear that your top school ended up disappointing you.

Hello, I also applied to Azusa and would like to hear more your input. Did you end up finishing after those missing hours what was your overall experience? 

sylvia66

Has 4 years experience.

On 1/13/2021 at 8:14 PM, vpetr002 said:

Hi Sylvia,

Thank you for sharing your experience. The chaos described is concerning. Could the constant changes in the schedule be associated with the pandemic? 

What other pros/cons do you have to share? And if you do not mind me asking, which campus are you attending as there may be differences in how each program is carried at the varying locations. So sorry to hear that your top school ended up disappointing you.

These changes occurred far before the pandemic began.

What do you mean they don’t help struggling students. Is it true that if you get B- it’s consider failing? What do they do if you have several C’s do they make you retake the courses? 

On 9/9/2020 at 1:55 PM, sylvia66 said:

When I was seeking advice on ELM programs- I wish I had someone who gave me an honest opinion. So.... I want to be that person for any prospective nursing students. Azusa Pacific University was my first choice when looking for ELM programs. Little did I know how.. HORRID the program was. The program is COMPLETELY unorganized. The faculty offers minimal resources for struggling students. Expect to have missed BSN requirements- there have been multiple times hours were calculated incorrectly and we had to figure out how we would get the remaining clinical hours required by the board. I also hope you do not have a job, significant other, life- of any sort- because the schedule changes every week. Class times have changed mid semester. The clinical schedule is constantly changing and they expect you to be readily available. I guess-if you have no job or life this might be fine- but it will get frustrating eventually. 

 

If you have any questions regarding the program. please ask, I am happy to offer my honest viewpoint.

I attend APU at IERC and I can confirm what you mentioned because we are currently experiencing this as well. This program is highly unorganized and the communication between the faculty and administration is AWFUL. I talk to some of the Monrovia students and they say the same thing. Since the school pushes you to get your DNP, there is a lot of redundant and useless, waste-of-time classes that they make you take. They can literally combine bioethics, research methods, and scientific writing into one class and keep it moving. Also, there is so much busywork, it will make your head spin. The ONLY reason why I picked this school over other schools is that you get your BSN. A lot of the other ELM programs don't do that so you're stuck with a cert that forces you to get your masters. The problem is, with a lot of nurses getting their BSN, it is hard to compete with just a certificate. Just my opinion, however. Anyways, I agree; having a job, friends, or family will make your life harder because the schedule is always changing. And yes, it changed for me mid-semester. I understand that things are changing with our clinical rotation due to the pandemic, but the changes that occur due to poor communication are not okay. I'm sorry, poor communication is incorrect. NO communication is more accurate. I have talked to other students from different nursing programs and I will admit that we get better rotations than some of the other programs during this pandemic... so that's a plus. The good thing about it is that the program is just a blip in your life and you will get out of this crazy program in no time. 

sylvia66

Has 4 years experience.

On 5/28/2021 at 12:18 PM, Auroa02 said:

What do you mean they don’t help struggling students. Is it true that if you get B- it’s consider failing? What do they do if you have several C’s do they make you retake the courses? 

Hello, C's are not passing- if you get one C you repeat the course. If you get more than one C you get dismissed.