Questions regarding Maricopa CC's Nursing program

U.S.A. Arizona

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issue resolved - and no useful information in my posts, hence no need for it here

lol, more good stuff supporting my own feelings on their system.

Among so many other things that stand out as absurd, foremopst is the fact that with such a severe shortage of nurses, I would think that something would have been done long ago to address this problem (i.e. - more teachers, more schools, etc...). On the bright side, the failure of anything to be done about it means far greater job availability, and earnings potential for the nurses out there.

It's like anything, I guess. When I was a mason and there was a construction boom (and therefore, a shortage of masons), the problem would be addressed by hiring unskilled masons who would come in and produce substandard workmanship. In other words, the problem was not addressed at all.

Eventually (years or decades from now), the nursing shortage, the wait times to get into schools, the incentives to be a nurse (such as good pay) will all balance back out, and the good times (and some of the bad that comes with it) will be over for a while.

Specializes in Acute Care Psych, DNP Student.
Among so many other things that stand out as absurd, foremopst is the fact that with such a severe shortage of nurses, I would think that something would have been done long ago to address this problem (i.e. - more teachers, more schools, etc...). On the bright side, the failure of anything to be done about it means far greater job availability, and earnings potential for the nurses out there.

Actually, AZ nursing programs have done quite a good job of increasing enrollment. In the last five years, AZ nursing programs have added 1710 additional seats. This is an increase in enrollment of 67%. The problem is that even when the supply of seats increases - the demand outpaces it. Everyone and their brother wants to be a nurse now.

You might want to check out this link:

https://allnurses.com/forums/f135/annual-report-az-rn-programs-183197.html

Actually, AZ nursing programs have done quite a good job of increasing enrollment. In the last five years, AZ nursing programs have added 1710 additional seats. This is an increase in enrollment of 67%. The problem is that even when the supply of seats increases - the demand outpaces it. Everyone and their brother wants to be a nurse now.

You might want to check out this link:

https://allnurses.com/forums/f135/annual-report-az-rn-programs-183197.html

An excellent find, ty.

Specializes in Pediatrics!.

ohh and another one of my concerns was... i asked the advisor.. just a what if question... what happens when people who have been waiting so long there NET test expires..(they expire after one year of taking it) which is getting pretty close for some of the people who have been waiting a while... and i get this answer..."oh that has never happened before.." well it seems to me a lot of people would be pissed off including myself i had to retake that test again...and everyone usually takes it a month or two before the apply....with the number of applicants and increased wait times..re-testing better not be the case...

I never thought of that....That really stinks!:angryfire

This may help you out with yuor place in line..... When I applied in MAY; there were about 500 on the list making me about 550 (give or take); They just took about 430, so I should be about 120ish... They will take 30 for Banner but those can be anyone so lets not count those.... There are a few schools that take in the summer (about 100 spots gone) leaving another 450 spots open for AUGUST. PEEESH- I bet you get in for AUGUST for sure....

Did you know about 7 years ago- they took first come first serve- SO students had to camp out waiting for sunrise to get "in" like getting concert tickets.... to stop that madness, they came up with a lottey.. which of course sucked, so they do this now.. They may end up going back to a GPA system....

yahh.. haha like when i signed up for anatomy 202 during the summer...we had to get there at 5:30 in the morning... it was insane.. alot of people line up even for these classes... i can not imagine what it would be like for nursing schoool lol wow... and when microbiology started last fall...at pvcc all the microbiology spots filled in the first 30 mins... i was really lucky to get into all my classes... because those online classes just dont work for me lol

Ugh. :( I don't know if they just updated or if I'm just now noticing, but the numbers are looking terrible.

Placement White Board

796 in "full" placement status, another 471 in "provisional" placement status, Spring 2007 placements already handed out, and oldest application in database from last spring's admission period.

I want to cry.

*sigh* I best find me a CNA class and start applying elsewhere after all. How hellish is the drive to Globe? I hear windy mountain path and snow. Does it get bad during the winter?

hey azmom when did you apply??? i put my application in june.. still waiting.. lol

I haven't yet. Will finish up prereqs this upcoming semester or early summer (haven't decided yet if I want to double up A&PII and Micro).

Specializes in Cardiac.

How hellish is the drive to Globe? I hear windy mountain path and snow. Does it get bad during the winter?

I've made that drive to Miami/Globe about a billion times from both ways (Phx and Tucson). I don't remember it being a windy wintery pass! LOL-it's still Az.

I never thought of that....That really stinks!:angryfire

This may help you out with yuor place in line..... When I applied in MAY; there were about 500 on the list making me about 550 (give or take); They just took about 430, so I should be about 120ish... They will take 30 for Banner but those can be anyone so lets not count those.... There are a few schools that take in the summer (about 100 spots gone) leaving another 450 spots open for AUGUST. PEEESH- I bet you get in for AUGUST for sure....

Did you know about 7 years ago- they took first come first serve- SO students had to camp out waiting for sunrise to get "in" like getting concert tickets.... to stop that madness, they came up with a lottey.. which of course sucked, so they do this now.. They may end up going back to a GPA system....

Does anyone know the rationale for them NOT considering GPA in admission decisions? How about not just accepting someone who's passed the NET with a minimum score, but giving placement to students with the highest GPA and NET Scores? If the universities do so, I'd assume that the MCCCD schools could as well. It would be an added incentive for students to excel in their pre-reqs, and the schools would benefit by perhaps having a brighter class of qualified students, which might also translate into higher program completion rates, and ultimately, a higher pass rate on the nursing boards. Perhaps I'm just playing the devil's advocate, but it seems to be a question worthy of discussion.

Does anyone know the rationale for them NOT considering GPA in admission decisions? How about not just accepting someone who's passed the NET with a minimum score, but giving placement to students with the highest GPA and NET Scores? If the universities do so, I'd assume that the MCCCD schools could as well. It would be an added incentive for students to excel in their pre-reqs, and the schools would benefit by perhaps having a brighter class of qualified students, which might also translate into higher program completion rates, and ultimately, a higher pass rate on the nursing boards. Perhaps I'm just playing the devil's advocate, but it seems to be a question worthy of discussion.

I think that is a really dumb idea......If you wanted to attend a school where GPA mattered you could attend ASU, private nursing school, apply for MCCCD accelerated program, or even priority placement through a hospital. If you want to a place where GPA and NET scores matter there yah go. You are acting like all the people who applied passed the NET with minimal scores. You are dreaming. I think the community college has a good system, but there is too many applicants and not enough spots. A lot of people who attend community college are either full time students, students that are older coming back to school, also work, and may also have kids and families to attend to. Having a non-competitive atmosphere makes a better learning environment. It allowed me to get good grades and prepared me to be more confident taking tests. There is a lot of “bright” people who applied for the nursing school and there are a lot “qualified” students. Sure, there could be a few bad eggs in the bunch but isn’t that the case almost everywhere you go. There are different schools for different people some people may do better ASU while others may love community college. It’s all preference in what you want to do. Why would you want to attend MCCCD nursing schools anyways you seem all hung over about the GPA NET scores… ?…..Well if you have not even completed your preq’s they classes can get pretty demanding… I bet any nursing student can tell you they are bright class of qualified students or they wouldn’t become nurses...:nono:

If you wanted to attend a school where GPA mattered you could attend ASU, private nursing school, apply for MCCCD accelerated program, or even priority placement through a hospital.

Is there a separate application process for the MCCCD accelerated program? I was under the impression that was wait list as well. (Not that I'm interested in going accelerated, just curious is all.)

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