Published Sep 4, 2017
nursefromcali
245 Posts
So I'm just wondering WHY other my friends got their RN license thru endorsement and licensure without TAKING ANY CLASSES and just simply applied on CA BRN????? Why other people like me still need to go back to school????? I graduated 2009. And my two friends graduated 2012 and 2013???????????? Is CA BRN unfair or what?? It's just frustrating. My initial application was 2012 and of course denied. Then this 2017 I applied for endorsement still denied. I'm getting depressed and envy to other people getting their Cali RN license without going back to school or fixing their deficiencies.
Any the same experience like me? please share
I want to file an appeal but I don't know how
PLEASE HELP!
meanmaryjean, DNP, RN
7,899 Posts
Well, for starters, are you an international graduate?
Sour Lemon
5,016 Posts
So I'm just wondering WHY other my friends got their RN license thru endorsement and licensure without TAKING ANY CLASSES and just simply applied on CA BRN????? Why other people like me still need to go back to school????? I graduated 2009. And my two friends graduated 2012 and 2013???????????? Is CA BRN unfair or what?? It's just frustrating. My initial application was 2012 and of course denied. Then this 2017 I applied for endorsement still denied. I'm getting depressed and envy to other people getting their Cali RN license without going back to school or fixing their deficiencies.Any the same experience like me? please share I want to file an appeal but I don't know how PLEASE HELP!
Starting threads about this subject over and over is probably the least productive thing you could possibly do. If you want a California license, simply do as the California BON is instructing. They're not going to care if you find their processes to be unfair.
steppybay
1,882 Posts
To file the appeal, you must do so WITHIN 60 days of the first letter of notification of your application status (declined or rejected), in WRITING or lose your rights to appeal. Below in a separate posting you will find the appeal process.
In your appeals letter, you must state why you believe that your application does meet the minimum requirements of the CA BRN.
If you decide to give the names and license number (of the people who personally know that got the license), they may or may not accept that fact. But know that it could open the files of those who know got their license and subject them to possible license action taken against them if they used fake documents but if not, they will not know you mentioned their names and life goes on undetected.
Realize that this is partly how the CA BRN found out of the fraudulent applicants and applications in the first place that's caused the microscope reviews of the PH applications.
Back to your concern, it's possible that the previous applicants simply and truly met the concurrency rules.
However, there have been previous posters who KNEW their friend's transcripts were altered by school officials (maybe taken a "bribe) I'm not saying your connects did this but the possibility exists. There could be a case of the CA BRN analyst who simply approved the application in haste due to the overwhelming of applications they must get thru the system and have quota's to meet. It's possible that some applications are still being presented with Recto documents (documents that can be purchased in the streets in the PH) as we all know for the right price, almost anything can be made. They say these forgers have gotten very good and like paper money that can be counterfeited.
The CA BRN are unable to detect such deceptive documentation as they are having to rush thru 1000's upon 1000's of applications, which is why it takes longer to review the international paperwork vs those who's are coming in from local or domestic schools.
As others have said, you can complain and complain all you want but it will not get you anywhere. Focus your attention on getting the requirements that's asked of you to comply. If it means having to re-take the deficient course or having to re-take the entire nursing program (as many have had to), then that's what you have to do if the appeal process doesn't work.
The other option as it has been for thousands of others in your same exact situation is to start planting your roots in another state that you got your license in and build upon that. That will be the state you start your family with and where your kids will know for at least a decade or two, but also know that those years and years of paid working RN experience can NOT be substituted for your school's transcripts shortage. CA BRN will always look to your original school's documentation as the foundation of your application.
To file the appeal:
Posted back in 2014 using those using fake documents:
https://allnurses.com/international-nursing/use-fake-transcripts-929155.html
Never heard of the ringmaster (lady) getting caught yet so it's possible it's still going on as money talks.