apparently like the other 400+ people before me on the waiting list at Santa Ana College:cry:, I'm wondering how long did it take to get in?
I did pretty good in my pre-reqs:
Eng 101, A
Micro (Health), B
Anatomy, A
Phsy, A
this would give my 35 pts on their ranking system.
my overall GPA was about 3.2 at the time of my application.
no prior certs (LVN, EMT).
does/did anyone else have grades similar to these? and if so, how long did it take you?
the letter that I rec'd stated was vague in regards to my expected wait time, which I'm sure is what they were going after.
I've was told by a counselor @ SAC before that they cannot truly have an accurate idea of exactly how many people are ahead of me as they encounter a number of individuals that are on their list, but for one reason or another will no longer attend once their names come up (people move out of state, go to another college, change majors, etc).
in addition I wonder how many of those names ahead of me are those of people with LVNs, who will be entering on the 3rd semester of the program.
and furthermore, has anyone had to take that TEAS test yet?
was that thing intense at all? are their any study guides you can recommend?
I know two other people who got "invited" to SAC for Spring 2009, but they were notified in July, so are taking Pharmacology and the Nursing 112 now. It's weird how SAC is the only school who takes applications, and sends acceptance letters, on a rolling basis.
About the men thing; I the whole "diversity" thing is being pushed, but it de-prioritizes people who've worked hard to get good grades. Apgar also said something about that, too. YOU got a good point score so that was clearly the main thing that mattered per your admission - good for you!
I know two other people who got "invited" to SAC for Spring 2009, but they were notified in July...
funny, i was supposed to have received a similar letter in July as well but never did.
somehow that letter never made it to me...either on their end or a family member of mine accidently got it mixed up with the tons of junk mail that like clockwork seems makes it into the mailbox everyday and through it away...i dunno.
as a result, i now get to take those two classes (RN 103 & RN 112) next semester and then finally be solid for a possible Fall 2009 entry.
>insert sarcastic remark here
but talking with the gals in the nursing office it prolly wouldn't have mattered if i took those 2 classes this semester...it sounded to me like the nursing dept like to way over book each semester with anticipation of people failing the TEAS test so that way each semester will be filled.
meh. there's really nothing i can do about it. just suck it up and deal with it, right?
I just heard that Santa Ana (per new California legislation) is finally doing away with their Wait List; as of 2009 they are doing what the rest of the J.C.'s are ALREADY doing and accepting students based solely on points, with applications needing to be re-submitted every semester.
Also, the "lottery" thing that some other schools are doing is being eliminated, and several schools (Saddleback, etc.) are "upgrading" both their admission AND program requirements. I also read where some schools (like Riverside Community College) are awarding points for things like a prior B.A. degree, high TEAS scores, mastery of a second language (meaning one has to be fluent in BOTH...), and other things.
SAC said the details will be on their Nursing website in January.
I just heard that Santa Ana (per new California legislation) is finally doing away with their Wait List; as of 2009 they are doing what the rest of the J.C.'s are ALREADY doing and accepting students based solely on points, with applications needing to be re-submitted every semester.
Also, the "lottery" thing that some other schools are doing is being eliminated, and several schools (Saddleback, etc.) are "upgrading" both their admission AND program requirements. I also read where some schools (like Riverside Community College) are awarding points for things like a prior B.A. degree, high TEAS scores, mastery of a second language (meaning one has to be fluent in BOTH...), and other things.
SAC said the details will be on their Nursing website in January.
I read about the Sana Ana stuff on their web site. They said they no longer will have the "Wait List" system after June, but didn't say exactly how they were going to do their admissions (they said they will be posting specific information in January).
It sounds like they won't do away with the current wait list yet, but will not be adding to it starting in June; like the other schools, they'll be taking applications one semester at a time and admitting students with the highest number of "points." They'll probably have to take a certain percentage, or number of people, from the wait list because people are already on it, but I assume that the percentage, or number, will be low and as people's sciences pass the five year mark, they will be dropped off. When Long Beach got rid of their wait list, however, they just did away with it and all of those people had to re-apply the new way - each semester.
I know there has been a bill in California (AB 573) to do away with wait lists and lottery systems, and it must have passed. The schools probably have a certain number of semesters to implement it completely. I read on the Riverside CC Nursing website where they are re-doing their admission criteria because of the bill, so I assume it passed. I don't know if I can post a link here, but I'll try. It's a report that justifies the bill.
i just got off the phone with someone in the nursing dept at SAC.
she stated that after June 2009 (or thereabouts) they will no longer be accepting new applications (i'm assuming this applies to 1st semester applications, i did ask her to specify, sorry).
everyone already on the wait list will remain on the list, and retain their position.
they are basically gonna deplete that list before accepting new applicants into the program, which should "take about 3 years."
also, everyone currently on the list will be admitted in the same manner as done in the past...so the new state law will not effect us. (so...good news?)
they have a link available to download a .doc of the wait list, current as of 10/2008.
i'm in the 300 range now.
if it's not too much trouble, maybe others could call the nursing dept, ask them how this state law will effect students already on the list (maybe even play 'dumb' a little, i did), then come back and post what they said? and if you do, be sure to get the name of who you spoke to.
i figure if we get enough people being told the same thing then we won't have to take this explanation with a grain of salt.
Yes, but the thing about "depleting their list" is that it depends on how they do it. If they decide to go with their new system and then only take a small percentage off the list, people whose sciences expire will be knocked off the list.
I don't have anything to do with Santa Ana or their list, but they were the only school in Southern California that I knew of that still maintained a Wait List, so I actually think it's a good thing that they finally were able to start admitting students as should be done - by a point system. I mean, why should people who meet the minimum criteria get admitted before those who have much higher academic skills? The universities don't do it, and either should the J.C.'s.
According to the Senate bill, the next thing going will be that ridiculous "lottery" system. Many schools have already trashed that, too.
I also found out that the schools are moving to require Chemistry as a prerequisite - Saddleback will do it as of Fall '09 and either the students will have to score a certain percentage on a Chem. test, or take the Chemistry 108 class. Santa Ana said about a year ago that they are trying to get a class like Saddleback's Chem. 108, and will then most likely require Chemistry as an additional prerequisite. The schools are also going to be requiring Intermediate Algebra or higher, not just Elementary Algebra. All in all, Nursing programs are moving towards the procedure of medical school admissions - only the best will get in.
Some schools in the midwest require that a student be a CNA before applying to an RN program, which I think is ridiculous!!
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Congratulations O.C. Angels Fan!
I know two other people who got "invited" to SAC for Spring 2009, but they were notified in July, so are taking Pharmacology and the Nursing 112 now. It's weird how SAC is the only school who takes applications, and sends acceptance letters, on a rolling basis.
About the men thing; I the whole "diversity" thing is being pushed, but it de-prioritizes people who've worked hard to get good grades. Apgar also said something about that, too. YOU got a good point score so that was clearly the main thing that mattered per your admission - good for you!