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Ok I am clear that I shouldnt have any problems getting my BSN or MSN at another school beside EC, after recieving my ASN there.

I am now wondering what California's take is on nurses trying to get licensed there after being a EC grad that got higher education and is now a BSN from another instituion. Will they license you and let you practice as an RN?

Thanks in advance.....

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I am assuming that you are considering getting your RN license from another state after graduating from Excelsior with an ASN, then continuing on to get your BSN from out of state. Then you would follow the procedures to endorse your RN license into California. The BSN logically would supersede the ASN, and you would have a valid RN license. You can find out your answer directly by contacting the California BRN.

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The Ca BORN bases your licensure on what school you went to that made you eligible to take the NCLEX and become licensed. If EC is the school that allowed you to have the credentials to take the NCLEX then that is what Ca bases your elgibility to become licensed in Ca on. So no a BSN after obtaining your RN through EC will not replace EC because it is through Excelsior that you became licensed.

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Isn't it the case that an EC grad can work in another state as an RN, get the required clinical experience, and then apply for licensure in California? In that scenario, someone could be working as an ASN while getting their BSN and then receive licensure in California. Correct?

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the California exclusion was only a problem for new grads wanting to work in California.

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Specializes in Peds stepdown ICU.

This is taken directly from the CBORN site:

The California Board of Registered Nursing adopted the following motion at its board meeting on February 6, 2004:

"The following action supersedes and replaces the December 5, 2003, Board action related to Excelsior College:

"Excelsior College graduates, like other out-of-state graduates, must meet the requirements set forth in California Business and Professions Code Section 2736, including supervised clinical practice concurrent with theory, in order to be eligible for examination and licensure as a California registered nurse. This eligibility requirement applies to students who enrolled at Excelsior on or after December 6, 2003."

The board also won in court upholding this issue and you may access this info as well as what I posted using this link to the board's site http://www.rn.ca.gov/new/news.htm#excelsior2

You can't get licensed in California if you did not enroll with Excelsior prior to the deadline listed above...and you must have maintained enrollment until you graduated. A higher degree after graduating from excelsior still won't qualify you to work in Ca unless you enrolled before the date indicated. They base your licensure on the credentials that you used to initially become licensed. You don't need to retake boards when you do a RN-BSN program...hence they base it on your initial credentials that allowed you to sit for boards. I researched this info and called the board before I moved here to California because I worried about getting licensed. I made the deadline. It is unfortunate but true. I did hear from Excelsior that they may allow licensure for LPN's who get their RN through EC and work in another state awhile but the board maintains it stance. Call them if you have questions....they are the DIRECT source.

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I see nothing in your quote that states they wont take a EC grad with higher education from another school. I see nothing there that they base your license off of your ASN which allowed you to sit for the NCLEX. Nothing at all. Can anyone give me some correct direction with this? Please and Thank You!

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It is true I have called and asked this question. When you apply for endorsement they ask for your transcripts and regardless of where your BSN is from they look at what initially made you eligible to sit for boards and if it says EC they look for enrollment before December 2003....you will be denied if it is after that date. Call for yourself and speak with the board...straight from the horse's mouth. If you speak with Puala at Excelsior in the state board office she will tell you the very same thing. Whatever school allowed you to sit for boards to become an RN is what they look at. You would not have met all the clinical hours that are required with concurrent theory (as specified right on the boards page) by doing Excelsior and then doing an RN-BSN program. The clinicals for the RN-BSN program are different, unless of course you take a complete BSN program with the amount of clinical hours and concurrent theory required. It is sad but true. Your best bet is to call the board and Excelsior yourself...save yourself the headache of enrolling with the intent to be licensed in California being an EC grad. I hope in the future something is worked out between EC and Ca...but Puala from the boards office of EC said today they have not heard anything or any changes from CABORN. Here is the contact information :

Board of Registered Nursing

1625 North Market Blvd,

Suite N217

Sacramento, CA 95834-1924

Phone: (916) 322-3350

TDD: (916) 322-1700

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With all of that being true, what if an EC grad obtained their advanced practice nursing, say CRNA, that would be a different board. So do you mean that I graduate from EC and thoeretically go to Harvard (who accepts EC credits) and get my masters that CA is going to look back to my ASN and deny licensure?

I am just curious since I thought that advced practice nursing is a whole new set of boards to pass

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With all of that being true, what if an EC grad obtained their advanced practice nursing, say CRNA, that would be a different board. So do you mean that I graduate from EC and thoeretically go to Harvard (who accepts EC credits) and get my masters that CA is going to look back to my ASN and deny licensure?

I am just curious since I thought that advced practice nursing is a whole new set of boards to pass

In ANY state, in order to practice as an advanced practice nurse, you have to maintain active licensure as an RN, same as every other RN in the state. Advanced practice certification/licensure is in addition to the basic nursing license. So, in the case of CA, whatever additional, advanced education you pursue, you will not be eligible (as the rules stand now; of course, they may be changed in the future) for licensure as an RN if you got your original, basic nursing education through EC and, therefore, will not be licensable as an advanced practice nurse.

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In ANY state, in order to practice as an advanced practice nurse, you have to maintain active licensure as an RN, same as every other RN in the state. Advanced practice certification/licensure is in addition to the basic nursing license. So, in the case of CA, whatever additional, advanced education you pursue, you will not be eligible (as the rules stand now; of course, they may be changed in the future) for licensure as an RN if you got your original, basic nursing education through EC and, therefore, will not be licensable as an advanced practice nurse.

You are correct! This is what the board told me. Anything above and beyond your initial credentials that allowed you to sit for boards doesn't really matter if you obtained your initial licensure as an RN through EC...unless you met the December 5, 2003 deadline. Maybe in the future this will change, but as of today EC grads can't get licensed in California unless they met the deadline date.

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