Susy, that is a good question. By your standards, where does a nurse fit on the list?
Would it also surprise you to know that intranet administrators in hospitals make twice as much as nurses?
Dieticians make more money.
In fact there is a lot of people who make more money than nurses and in many cases nurses have to perform many of the same duties that they do.
It is not so much nurses saying that another profession should make less than nurses. It is nurses saying that the duties and responsibilities that we perform deserve the same financial consideration. If that profession has less duties and ultimate responsibilities, then yes we should make more.
As far as the other jobs that should get greater pay, then they need to speak out and take action. We need to focus on our problems and what we have to deal with on a daily basis. If we ever get our houses in order then we will be stronger and better able to help others in need and this includes our patients.
Susy, you your self left hospital nursing except for picking of time here and there. You took a lower paying just to get away. You have stated in the past that the only reason you have continued to pick up time in the hospital was to keep your skills up to date. You are in a 2-income family without dependents. There are many nurses who do not have that luxury and are forced to work an additional job in order to provide for their dependents. They paid a heavy price to get where they are today both emotionally and financially. For someone in your position to tell others that they are not worth more is almost harboring on ......... I will let you choose the word that fits the best.
I am through going down this path of nonsense with you. Thank god there are people who actually value themselves higher than you do. Your attitude is one of the main reasons nursing in general has not advanced and is in the shape it is in today. Sme people actually seek improvement than rather stay stagnant in a world they do not enjoy.
Because I chose to not have dependents and because both my husband and I worked through college and ate Hamburger Helper for 5 years, and because we don't sink our money into car payments, does that mean that I can't hold an opinion because someone else has it rougher than me - in the same profession? I bet that most of those nurses who are referring to are also making more than me.
Yes I left the hospital full time and took a lower paying clinic job. That was also to set myself up to be able to return to school. And don't think that the lower pay didn't come with sacrificies.
It's not like I'm some CEO in an insurance company with this opinion. I am a bedside nurse, just like everyone else, and I make $16/hour. Because my husband and I appear to have it "better" than other nurses does not invalidate my opinion.
Jeez Wild, I'm kinda offended. I have the lifestyle I do because of the choices I made.
Also Wild, I seriously doubt that the nursing profession is in this state because little ol' me holds the opinion that 80K is a bit much for your basic bedside nurse with little experience.
Perhaps travelers and agency are, because they often come in and fill the gaps that the regular staff leave as a result of horrible conditions, and hospitals don't mind paying agency because they don't have to provide benefits to them which account for...what is it....1/3 of someone's income?
See how ludricous that is?
Also, the nursing shortage is a pendulum. It was this way years ago as well....when I just a twinkle in the profession's proverbial eye.
Here is a reality. If an agency or travel nurse is making $80,000 a year then the hospital is actually paying out $100,000 plus per year for that nurse.
Lets talk about managers for a minute. What is your feelings about the nurse manager who makes the same as the bedside nurse but has the responsibility of running the unit, overseeing a budget and managing between 50 to 100 nurses?
What type of a salary should she/he be getting? Within the corporate world they would be making in the 6 digits. Because they are nurse and most female should they be making less?
Susy I think you are messing around, but I will explain this anyhow.
The local or travel agency charges a per hour fee for the nurse. The nurse is then paid out of that pot. The agency can charge whatever price they choose. It is not uncommon for agencies to charge $20 dollars or more per hour more than what they actually pay the agency nurse.
The agency can charge whatever price they choose. It is not uncommon for agencies to charge $20 dollars or more per hour more than what they actually pay the agency nurse.
Wild I am not messing around.
But based on what you told me, sounds to me like the agencies are just as quilty as the hospitals in holding out. Sounds like a better option for nurses to independently contract themselves, and then see if the hospital will still pay that amount.
suzy...i know that you werent talking to me but i did bring up the sole provider issue only because if nothing else...dont you think we DESERVE to make a living and support our families?
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i think that many of the nurses who say they dont care about the money dont have to. i wasnt talking about you..i dont recall your saying that.
I have kids to support so money is important to me.
wildtime88
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Susy, that is a good question. By your standards, where does a nurse fit on the list?
Would it also surprise you to know that intranet administrators in hospitals make twice as much as nurses?
Dieticians make more money.
In fact there is a lot of people who make more money than nurses and in many cases nurses have to perform many of the same duties that they do.
It is not so much nurses saying that another profession should make less than nurses. It is nurses saying that the duties and responsibilities that we perform deserve the same financial consideration. If that profession has less duties and ultimate responsibilities, then yes we should make more.
As far as the other jobs that should get greater pay, then they need to speak out and take action. We need to focus on our problems and what we have to deal with on a daily basis. If we ever get our houses in order then we will be stronger and better able to help others in need and this includes our patients.
Susy, you your self left hospital nursing except for picking of time here and there. You took a lower paying just to get away. You have stated in the past that the only reason you have continued to pick up time in the hospital was to keep your skills up to date. You are in a 2-income family without dependents. There are many nurses who do not have that luxury and are forced to work an additional job in order to provide for their dependents. They paid a heavy price to get where they are today both emotionally and financially. For someone in your position to tell others that they are not worth more is almost harboring on ......... I will let you choose the word that fits the best.
I am through going down this path of nonsense with you. Thank god there are people who actually value themselves higher than you do. Your attitude is one of the main reasons nursing in general has not advanced and is in the shape it is in today. Sme people actually seek improvement than rather stay stagnant in a world they do not enjoy.