Am I right in my thinking working on the dementia unit?

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I have been wanting to ask this for a very long time, and it has been the first ethical issue I have faced in nursing. I am employed at a nursing facility that is one of the largest in the area, and won awards from the state two years in a row for not having any errors during inspections from the health department. I'm a junior nursing student working on getting my BSN. Anyways to the situation...

I was employed to this facility and was placed on the dementia unit. Many on this unit were very bad off, some threatening to kill you if you asked to give them a bath. I understand dementia. I understand that many of these people are confused about their surroundings and have lost the ability to care for themselves. I get it. However, many times while I was at this facility, I was forced to give patient care. For instance, say "Chuck Norris" was to get a bath today. I'd approach him and say in statement form "Hey Chuck, I'm giving you a bath after dinner real quick okay?" Often they would say no. I would reapproach them multiple times, sometimes using the word "water therapy" or something instead.

However at this facility if a patient did not get a bath, we often would steer, physically push or pick them up physically and put them in the bath tub. I do not care what mental state you are in, that is wrong. These patients sometimes cried and became terrified of us. I cannot morally give care to someone like that. You reapproach the issue. Sometimes I have sat down and talked with a patient, and calmly and directly tell them what is going to happen or what I am going to do. Sometimes looking them in the eye helps to fmake them focus. And they do as I ask (usually haha). Anyways I was told if I did not give a patient a bath on their assigned day I would automatically be fired.

Separate issue but several LPNs asked me to apply skin lotion that was ordered for the patients, but I'm not sure if I am permitted to do that?

What's your take on this? I felt wrong how care was performed and felt I was working in a prison, not a nursing facility. Just felt so morally wrong at the time.

But honestly if I am ever faced with this situation again and the RN does not agree, should I just take it up the chain of command until I get an answer? And if after that should I consider reporting it to my state department of health?

Specializes in SICU, trauma, neuro.

Yes, although it would be the LTC ombudsman you'd report to. If you Google "(your state) long term care ombudsman" you'll find the info.

Thank you for caring and for your efforts to do the right thing!

But honestly if I am ever faced with this situation again and the RN does not agree, should I just take it up the chain of command until I get an answer? And if after that should I consider reporting it to my state department of health?

Another though that worked with some of my residents, try covering them up with hand towels or shower blankets. Uncover as you wash, recover with clean towel. It helped with some of my folks.

I had one lady who hated the tub but would get in for me only because I played Frank Sinatra in the tub room for her. She would bounce her foot and sing the whole time.

I agree that it's not ok to physically force someone but you also have to try to find a way to provide proper care too even if it means using 10x the towels or belting out show tunes.

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